Machina-AX says:Sackboy :D
Posted on: 01/01/09, 00:09 Report |
Torillian says:Happy New Year!! Posted on: 01/01/09, 00:09 Report |
DMeisterJ says:O yea!!!!
LBP is Game of the Year!!!!
This should be epic. Posted on: 01/01/09, 00:13 Report |
DMeisterJ says:Ooh, Best JRPG is Valkyria? This should be really interesting.
Overall, I agree with the whole list. Posted on: 01/01/09, 00:15 Report |
Blacksaber says:I agree with all odd... Posted on: 01/01/09, 00:15 Report |
TheLivingShadow says:You can't have Valkyria Chronicles as a JRPG...
it's like counting The Legend of Zelda as a JRPG...it doesn't make sense.
Besides that, I like the list. Posted on: 01/01/09, 00:28 Report |
BengaBenga says:Happy newyear everyone! Posted on: 01/01/09, 00:48 Report |
Everstar says:LBP Goty....? Really?
Posted on: 01/01/09, 01:02 Report |
ymeaga1n says:Mass Effect was released 2007. PC version was released 2008. Are PC games included in this? If so, why did best graphics go to MGS4. What gives? Posted on: 01/01/09, 01:04 Report |
Zucas says:A couple of these are just awful. One Valkyria shouldn't have beaten out TWEWY. Second best simulation game should be Spore. Third best game no one played should be TWEWY.
I'm content with GOTY. All the rest of the choices are really good. Posted on: 01/01/09, 01:10 Report |
leo-j says:YAY!!!!
IT TRULEY DESSERVES IT!
Posted on: 01/01/09, 01:11 Report |
rendo says:LBP GOTY? LAWL. No way. Then again, you put Madden over NHL 09 for the 360, which is an epic fail in itself. Posted on: 01/01/09, 01:17 Report |
haxxiy says:If someone is intersted (exclusives only, not included most disappointing):
goty awards-
PS3: 8
Wii: 5
x360: 2
PC: 1
runner-ups-
PS3: 4
Wii: 4
x360: 1
PC: 2
DS: 2
PSP: 1
Total: PS3 - 12, Wii - 9, X360 - 3, PC - 3, DS - 2, PSP - 1
Must have missed some though. Corrections welcome. Posted on: 01/01/09, 01:19 Report |
fkusumot says:
MK:Wii got robbed! I blame Wii Fit!
Posted on: 01/01/09, 01:22 Report |
Pellefant says:I really feel that Spore should be biggest disappointment. I regret buying that game so much. Posted on: 01/01/09, 01:25 Report |
Gobias says:How in the hell did MKwii beat Burnout Paradise? Posted on: 01/01/09, 01:29 Report |
Gobias says:@haxxiy Theres only one 360 exclusive on this list.
Looks like most media outlets agree, PS3 won this year in terms of software. Posted on: 01/01/09, 01:37 Report |
mtlca66 says:yay for little big planet Posted on: 01/01/09, 01:48 Report |
Quickdraw McGraw says:Surprisingly good choices.
I definitely agree with LBP as Game of the Year.
One of the most fun games I have ever played, let alone in just 2008. Posted on: 01/01/09, 01:55 Report |
--OkeyDokey-- says:@ Zucas
Only someone who hasn't played Valkyria Chronicles would say that.
I think everyone can agree that 2009 was PS3's year. Go LBP! Posted on: 01/01/09, 02:00 Report |
Gobias says:@ Okeydokey
Damn, LBP won GOTY 2009 too? I knew it was good, but jeez...
;) Posted on: 01/01/09, 02:12 Report |
Pete_Beast says:Awsome list. I would have swapped GOTY with either Brawl or kart Wii but the list is very very well made. Amazing job and happy new years! Posted on: 01/01/09, 02:20 Report |
starcraft says:Frankly the best racing and best graphics categories robbed the list of a bit of credibility. There were substantially better racers this year than MKWii.
And as for graphics, putting aside my belief that GeoW2 looks substantially better than MGS4, if we are including PC in this list (and evidently we are), MGS4 shouldn't even be in the running. Posted on: 01/01/09, 02:39 Report |
--OkeyDokey-- says:@ Gobias
....shut up >_>
lol, Naz did you write that description fot Fallout 3? Man, that must've really killed you :P Posted on: 01/01/09, 02:42 Report |
superbeast1370 says:for me it would have been LBP or MGS4 for GOTY. in before all xbots crying. Posted on: 01/01/09, 02:43 Report |
Torillian says:@Starcraft
As someone who had the ability to vote on this list, and chose not to, I think you have no right to complain. If you cared that much you should've done something to contribute to making the list instead of just bitching about it after the fact. Posted on: 01/01/09, 02:48 Report |
Infinity says:How does Pacific Rift get runner up for best racing game overall, when WipeOut HD WON best PS3 racing game of the year? Good list overall! Posted on: 01/01/09, 02:52 Report |
Light Yagami says:wow this is awful. having a category for JRPG, WRPG, MMORPG is just terrible. Just make a general RPG catergory. And having Valkyria win in both jrpg and strategy was just bad. Thats why IGN only had it in the strategy category. Way to please everyone. Posted on: 01/01/09, 02:52 Report |
Phendrana says:Bah, Rock Band 2 is better than World Tour in every way. I'd even go as far as saying WT is barely better than RB1.
Other than that, I pretty much agree with everything on the list. It's much more balanced than most other "best of" awards. Posted on: 01/01/09, 03:05 Report |
Cougarman says:i agree with pretty much everything, i didn't play LBP yet, so i dont know how good it is, anyways congrats LBP Posted on: 01/01/09, 03:07 Report |
Cactus says:The absence of Persona saddens me... Posted on: 01/01/09, 03:10 Report |
Machina-AX says:Looks like Naz forgot to check his pictures were working before he left ;) Posted on: 01/01/09, 03:19 Report |
monkeyman40210 says:little big planet is an okay choice but there are other games that deserve the title Posted on: 01/01/09, 03:21 Report |
Torillian says:@Cactus
Persona 4 came out a few days before we started voting, so I asked that it be put into the running for next year, since noone would have a chance to finish it in time to decide whether or not it deserved their vote.
I believe most didn't think of Persona 3: FES because it was an expansion on a previously released game. And while great, I'm unsure if it should be allowed to count the same game on the same console in two years. (thought this is obviously up for debate) Posted on: 01/01/09, 03:22 Report |
Tailgunner says:Awesome list. Good games represented for all the consoles, but LittleBigPlanet for the win, and another PS3 exclusive for the runner up! Thanks, us PS3 supporters needed some good news after the holiday numbers we've seen. Ouch. Posted on: 01/01/09, 03:33 Report |
Gobias says:@ Starcraft
Apparently you cannot read;
"To win the graphics award a game had to have both style and technical prowess. Metal Gear Solid 4 is not the best from a technical standpoint (that goes to our runner up), but it has a combination of amazingly high-quality visuals and a unique style of its own that makes it our choice for best graphics of 2008."
It is a combination of style and technical prowess, it is even admitted that Crysis has better graphics technically.
Not to mention the fact that other sites gave MGS4 best graphics over Crysis. Posted on: 01/01/09, 03:37 Report |
Xen says:MGS4 beat Gears for best TPS?
Only on VGC! Posted on: 01/01/09, 03:46 Report |
Kantor says:I knew LBP would win... :(
Oh and by the way, MGS4 is not a TPS. Posted on: 01/01/09, 04:18 Report |
Omega_Phazon_Pirate. says:Very good job. Although LBP is not my total favourite, it's not fair to judge just on renting it. I'm definitely going to buy it this May. I think it was hard to choose one Goty... They all deserved, but only one could get it. Congrats to LBP.
Anyways, I agree with most of the winners. Posted on: 01/01/09, 04:25 Report |
kutasek says:Wow people, saying it doesn't have credibility, get over it. This list is not to please people, it's their list, deal with it, and happy new year. Thanks for giving credit to VC. Posted on: 01/01/09, 04:27 Report |
gengka says:game of the year award ===> both champion and runner-up are ps3 games. but ps3 sells the worst in 2008. how ironic Posted on: 01/01/09, 04:29 Report |
Seraphic_Sixaxis says:Valkyria Chronicles Wow, ... just wow..... that thing won quite a few big ones, congrats i'll get it Q1 2009 for sure.
And congrats to LBP for GoTY, this was really PS3's year awesome-glaze. Posted on: 01/01/09, 04:33 Report |
Lafiel says:Valkyria Chronicles takes home 3 categories, just like the GotY LBP, that's really impressive, although ofcourse VCs ones had less competion.
I really think you guys should desing Megals/Awards and ad them in the game profiles. Posted on: 01/01/09, 04:37 Report |
Lale says:Strong PS3 bias.
That's weak for a video game sales site. Posted on: 01/01/09, 04:41 Report |
starbruin says:where's the purdy pictures ._. Posted on: 01/01/09, 04:43 Report |
coolestguyever says:left4dead is horrible, it should not be best FPS. horrible year for FPS if it really was Posted on: 01/01/09, 04:56 Report |
Gobias says:@Lale
You'll find most sites gave overall awards to PS3 games.
This list is fairly unbiased. Posted on: 01/01/09, 05:04 Report |
scottie says:Very good list.
I don't think LBP should have got most innovative, its a combination of user generated content and 2d Platforming - Done very well, but I don't think it's as innovative as Wii Fit Posted on: 01/01/09, 05:05 Report |
Deviation59 says:How could Communism beat Burnout Paradise for best racing game of the year? I can't argue too much with most of the choices (though I might rank Gears 2 over MGS 4 as a shooter) but Mario Kart Wii as the best racing game of the year is fucking mind boggling.
Burnout Paradise was the best racing game of 2008 with the only real competition coming from GRID and Wipeout HD. And how the hell did Motorstorm Pacific Rift come in second? At best, it's fifth. Posted on: 01/01/09, 05:10 Report |
SlumsofOhio says:Some of you who are bitching about the GOTY awards can grow up. And if you claim PS3 bias or anything else that's remotely stupid, don't come back to this website. We don't want you here. VGC can't make everyone happy. Posted on: 01/01/09, 05:11 Report |
averyblund says:Not a bad list, LBP is great, but something like World Of Goo should have that spot. A good PS3 exclusives year, but not good on the multiplats. Same is true for Wii. 360 decent year overall, consistent good SW. I do think though that this was a weak year for the Wii especially, and to some extent the 360. On the other hand this will be a stronger year for Sony than next. Look at the hardware, the PS3 can't afford to have a weaker lineup this year than last. A price cut could offset this. Posted on: 01/01/09, 05:27 Report |
Roflinator says:Nice to see some Wii games making it to the GOTY overall lists.
Brawl and World of Goo deserved it :)
I still want LBP but lack the PS3 and money :( Posted on: 01/01/09, 05:30 Report |
bbsin says:This isn't the only website that gave LBP GOTY. Whiners that are bitching about "PS3 bias" need recognize it, LBP is just that good. But as far as graphics are concerned, I don't really think MGS4 looks better than Gears2, not by a long shot. It purely comes down to the perception of "who's got the better art style", which pretty much makes it a toss up. Posted on: 01/01/09, 06:05 Report |
Gilgamesh says:List full of PS3 games, can't wait to see the list for 09 VG Chartz game of the year awards I'm positive it'll be mostly PS3 games :) Posted on: 01/01/09, 06:12 Report |
MontanaHatchet says:I always hate when people say you should be ashamed of yourself for not buying a certain game. It's so pretentious. Posted on: 01/01/09, 06:17 Report |
Deviation59 says:You should be ashamed of yourself for not buying Burnout Paradise.
....if you like high speed arcade racers with ridiculous crashes, endless gameplay and continuous support from the developer. Posted on: 01/01/09, 06:28 Report |
naznatips says:@ Okey, I did in fact write the summary for Fallout 3, and believe it or not, it was heartfelt. I recently bought the game, and enjoy it. I especially enjoy the mod tools.
@ Montana I did not just say "everyone" should buy the game. In fact, I added a lot of qualifiers, and I do believe people who meet those qualifications should buy the game.
@ those claiming this to be a "PS3 fanboys" list, we in fact had far less PS3 owning staff members than Wii owning staff members, and barely more than 360 owning staff members, if that tells you something. Posted on: 01/01/09, 06:30 Report |
naznatips says:And thanks so far commenters for generally reasonable comments about your disagreements. I'm happy to see less "this list sucks" and more "my opinions are different." I hope next year's lists will be even better.
To those complaining about the lack of Burnout: believe it or not it was not even close to the top in either reader or staff lists. I know, I was sad too. It was my second choice for racer of the year. If it had had local, it would have been my first. Posted on: 01/01/09, 06:33 Report |
Deviation59 says:What hurts my head the most is Motorstorm Pacific Rift coming in second. Burnout Paradise needs more love. Posted on: 01/01/09, 06:38 Report |
dark_gh0st_b0y says:great choices!
but for the game of the year, i'd say SSBB for sure (come on, you can't forget it just because it was released early), then LBP and then MGS4
i'm happy that LBP won it and not MGS4 Posted on: 01/01/09, 07:02 Report |
sepisfu says:GO LBP Posted on: 01/01/09, 07:06 Report |
Final-Fan says:LBP is huge! Posted on: 01/01/09, 07:09 Report |
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fazz says:I hope that with this, Sony fans don't complain anymore about "bias" on VGC. Posted on: 01/01/09, 07:18 Report |
BoneArk says:I'm just happy that No More Heroes won something.
Great game and highly recommend. Posted on: 01/01/09, 07:42 Report |
starcraft says:@ Gobias.
But MGS4 DIDN'T have any sort of unique style. It's character models (though better rendered than most) are no different to those in a huge number of games that came before (and after) it. If we were going for unique style a game such as Bioshock PS3, Valkyrie, Banjo Kazooie, Fable 2 or LBP should have received the award.
The failure of other sites to recognize this doesn't justify the failure of this site. For a long time Halo 3's graphics were considered very good because the game is amazing. But we know Halo 3's graphics to be not all that now. MGS4 being an excellent title taint's perceptions about it's great but not wonderful graphics. Posted on: 01/01/09, 07:43 Report |
--OkeyDokey-- says:I just noticed No More Heroes won best action game over GOW PSP and DMC4.
I don't get what people see in that game. I thought it was terrible, but whatever... Posted on: 01/01/09, 07:50 Report |
outlawauron says:@ Zucas
Come now, you should at least play it. TWEWY is vastly overrated, and LO or ToV are both better, IMO. Posted on: 01/01/09, 08:01 Report |
--OkeyDokey-- says:@ starcraft
I don't know what you're looking at, but MGS4 is a huge technical achievement. Some parts (cutscenes) had me in disbelief that it was all rendered on PS3 hardware, and in real time, too. It's obvious you haven't seen it yourself.
It'd be kinda dumb for Warhead to win considering it's an expansion pack with no significant graphical upgrade from the original, which won last year. Posted on: 01/01/09, 08:22 Report |
Shura says:^^ Valkyrias is WAY overrated.
And +o( on those awards. Posted on: 01/01/09, 08:22 Report |
klaudkil says:@ starcaft....i dont see any art styl etc like mgs4? its unique. dont hate because the ps3 has better software linup gears of war2 whas just like gears of war 1 nothing speciaaal. its a ripp of from kill switch( a game that looks like gow2 cover systeem).
2009 whas indeed the year of the ps3(not sale wise) and 2009 will even be better with uncharted2 killzone2 god of war 3 infamous etc.
jappy new year Posted on: 01/01/09, 08:25 Report |
skeezer says:Woot, LBP shits on em' all [except MGS4]  Posted on: 01/01/09, 08:28 Report |
dirtylemons says:I was disappointed with most of the year-end awards lists I've seen so far, but I would have to say this is my favorite thus far.
I'm glad to see that others liked 'Grand Theft Auto IV', but still found it disappointing. Posted on: 01/01/09, 08:31 Report |
Shanobi says:No More Heroes was one of the greatest games I've played, not only this year, but ever. It's incredible.
To those who don't own it yet, but have a Wii, you need that game! Posted on: 01/01/09, 08:43 Report |
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Brett says:Happy new year to everyone and a big thanks to Naz, Benga and their team for putting this together! Posted on: 01/01/09, 09:25 Report |
Videogirl says:Great choices of award.
For those who commented there shouldn't be three different categories for RPG (JRPG, WRPG and MMORPG) I highly disagree.
In that case why have a FPS and TPS category when the game mecanics is the same for both : shooting at something.
The three RPG genre and the expectations that go with it greatly differ. When I pick up a WRPG I'm looking for an open sandbox where I will quest and explore the world, when I choose a JRPG I know the game will be more linear but will also emphasize the story, and a MMORPG is primarily a WRPG but with a focus on the leveling of your character.
And @TheLivingShadow :
VC is a japanese game, VC is a role playing game where you level up your characters, so VC is a Japanese Role Playing Game or JRPG whether you like it or not and Legend of Zelda has no leveling up, so it couldn't be called RPG. Posted on: 01/01/09, 09:27 Report |
Luthor says:Happy new Year! Posted on: 01/01/09, 09:32 Report |
itune2af says:yay for no more heroes.. ... didnt really expected it.. Posted on: 01/01/09, 09:42 Report |
Gobias says:@Starcraft
Well, no matter how much it pains you, it's still not going to change the fact that MGS4 has won many graphics awards this year. I think I'd trust numerous media outlets over someone who probably hasn't even played the game.
And I don't know what the you're on about, Halo 3 graphics have always been mediocre from a technical standpoint.
Posted on: 01/01/09, 09:59 Report |
sep85dd says:Hm, why in the World Wii fit is in front of Animal Crossing?
And the Game of the Year for me is definetly NOT Little Big Planet, NOT MGS 4, and NOT SSBB, it is...tada! Sonic Chronicles on NDS. Posted on: 01/01/09, 10:15 Report |
66jzmstr says:This is definitely one of the better end-of-the-year lists I've seen. Props to the recognition of Valkyria Chronicles as well. Good job to VGChartz for this. Posted on: 01/01/09, 10:29 Report |
Frankenstein says:Just goes to show the quality of games on the PS3. Posted on: 01/01/09, 10:38 Report |
Million says:nice n balanced , good job. Posted on: 01/01/09, 10:48 Report |
seece says:Be nice to know what moderators came up with this list ... Posted on: 01/01/09, 11:23 Report |
rukusa says:Glad to see LBP scored a good impression on this site. Posted on: 01/01/09, 11:28 Report |
Staude says:Wery good job on all of these lists. While, as mentioned in the top, people will disagree on certain things, it's obvious a lot of time and effort was put into making these and i'm pretty sure that the whole community agrees with me when i say thank you for that time and effort !
Now to my disagreements :P
I know it wouldn't be fair cause it would launch more ps3 games on the list and upset the balance but.. Owning these games i can say that;
SSBB is in my opinion a horrible fighter that lacks on many levels. I don't believe it should win either score (since it's plain and unintresting) or best fighter since such games as Naruto: Ultimate ninjastorm and soul calibur excels so much better. But again it's all opinion :p and this was mine. Happy new years. Posted on: 01/01/09, 11:29 Report |
EssosDeeos says:great list and good diversity. Shows what a good year it was for gaming.
Still don't get NMH tho... Posted on: 01/01/09, 11:58 Report |
bobbo19 says:@ gengka
its called global recesssion dude! Price is and was the key factor runnign up to Christmas this year Posted on: 01/01/09, 12:02 Report |
Grampy says:It's not exactly the same as my personal list but then it's not supposed to be. More importantly, it's a list I can defend as balanced and fair and all differences fall clearly in the range of personal taste. Originality was rewarded and that is very much as should be. Great job, easily the best I've seen. Posted on: 01/01/09, 12:29 Report |
T013 says:Good list. 2008 was a pretty bad year for the Wii, but it's good to see that VGC isn't exaggerating this like some others do and still gives the few great Wii games of the year the credit they deserve. (No More Heroes best action game? I totally agree, but wasn't expecting that! Great job!)
As for the rest, I haven't played all of them obviously, but it seems like a well thought-out and unbiased list. Posted on: 01/01/09, 12:45 Report |
Aidman says:Happy New Year 2009 wish you Happiness for You Nintendo Fanboys, for you Microsoft Fanboys more 3th party games to beat the PS2 Mouaha Ha Ha Ha and for you Sony Fanboys more Blu-Ray and HD success Mouaha Ha Ha Ha .
Thank you ! and congract to Little Big Planet . Posted on: 01/01/09, 13:10 Report |
yo_john117 says:I like how all the multiplat titles they showed a pic of the PS3 version, and for the most disappointing game they showed the 360 version. What a joke. Posted on: 01/01/09, 13:12 Report |
Aldro says:PS3 DOMINATION WOHO! XD Posted on: 01/01/09, 13:22 Report |
tombi123 says:I agree with pretty much every choice. One of the best lists I've seen.
Anybody who is outraged about Valkyria Chronicles getting an award(s) clearly hasn't played it. Fantastic JRPG. Posted on: 01/01/09, 13:29 Report |
sc94597 says:Great list, there are a few things I disagree with, but all of the games in that were chosen, and I played I liked alot. Posted on: 01/01/09, 13:35 Report |
SpartanFX says:great list.
Happy new years every one.
@starcraft
about MGS4 ,,,VGC is not the only site to choose MGS4 as best graphics of 08,,,many sites(even Video game award show on TV)announced MGS4 as the best graphics.the day i played it i told you that looks insanely good.both game play and cut scene.
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JaggedSac says:Judging from that list. 2008 was shit for gaming. But that seems about right. And WTF is with all GHWT love? The game was sub par. Posted on: 01/01/09, 15:01 Report |
Serious_frusting says:overall i agree with this list. the bdst list of game awards yet the is nothing i would change Posted on: 01/01/09, 15:18 Report |
MaxArt says:I somewhat agree with the list. Just a few notes:
a) Mario Kart is surely fun, but I think Burnout Paradise deserves the Best Racing award: it's awesome AND fun.
b) I don't think LBP is that much fun, but... it's just me. Best platformer, of course, but not GotY for me.
c) The only portable game to really compete with console giants is TWEWY. And it could win the Best JRPG award, since I don't think Valkyria Chronicles is one. And TWEWY could match Okami as Best Game no one played.
d) Some games were released worldwide on 2007. I don't think they should be considered only because they were released for other platforms on 2008, as far as there are no meaningful changes. I'm talking about Mass Effect and Everyday Shooter, while Okami had significant improvements when ported to Wii.
e) I don't think GTA IV is that disappointing. We shouldn't forget horrible games like Haze, for example. Posted on: 01/01/09, 15:20 Report |
Torillian says:@Seece,
Everyone on staff was able to vote on the list, and then those votes were counted up and "bam!" you have your list.
@YoJohn
There were only two multiplats where he showed one of the HD consoles, for the rest he showed the PC. Therefore it was a 50/50 chance that most disappointing would either be PS3 or 360, and 360 lost the coin flip. Posted on: 01/01/09, 15:30 Report |
naznatips says:When picking boxarts I always tried to pick the primary SKU for the game. In most cases, this was PC. With GTAIV it was 360. With Prince of Persia, it didn't matter, since the game plays and looks the same on both, so I just grabbed the closest page to me. Posted on: 01/01/09, 15:45 Report |
xtastemyvenom says:Wow at all the whining.  Posted on: 01/01/09, 15:49 Report |
kowenicki says:6 games there where 360 box art could have been used...
Only one where it was used and thats in the biggest disappointment category... (even geom wars isnt clear its on 360)
just an observation. Posted on: 01/01/09, 15:51 Report |
Steroid says:Starcraft just stop. MGS4 has some of the best visuals of all time. If you had a PS3 you would know. Posted on: 01/01/09, 15:58 Report |
Godot says:meh... Posted on: 01/01/09, 16:05 Report |
DOATS1 says:ha! Posted on: 01/01/09, 16:07 Report |
naznatips says:If it makes you feel better Kowenicki I can remove the GTAIV 360 boxart and replace it with the PC one. I just tried to use primary SKUs, and for GTAIV that wasn't PC, it was 360. Posted on: 01/01/09, 16:08 Report |
kowenicki says:Leave it for me naz... it was just an observation.
It would have been fair though to put 360 in fallout, left 4 dead and prince of persia spaces. This is primarliy a console site revolving around sales numbers after all. Posted on: 01/01/09, 16:14 Report |
naznatips says:These aren't sales awards, these are quality awards. Primary SKUs is generally a better idea for quality awards, and surely you aren't denying that the PC is where Fallout and L4D were developed. I have no issues switching PoP out though. The only reason I grabbed the PS3 one for that (since there wasn't a primary SKU) is that it's the first one that turned up in a game database search for "Prince of Persia." Posted on: 01/01/09, 16:19 Report |
thetonestarr says:No handheld games? Disappointing.
;) Posted on: 01/01/09, 16:25 Report |
kowenicki says:@ naz I wasnt saying it was a sales award. I was saying that this site is primarily a site concerned with console sales. Left4 dead, POP, fallout 3 sold more on the 360 than any other console.
Anyway like I said... just an observation.. not that arsed.
Posted on: 01/01/09, 16:32 Report |
luisgvm says:WOW GO VALKIRIAAAAˇˇˇˇ and good for LBP wining GOTY. Posted on: 01/01/09, 16:37 Report |
selnor says:Did anyone think that VGC would have chose any other games for these. This was massively predictable.
Biggest dissapointment on this list for me is JRPG GOTY is certainly not VC.
Lost Odyssey should easily have won that.
But then this site is predominantly Sony fans, so the list is no surprise. Posted on: 01/01/09, 16:48 Report |
Aldro says:@Selnor
NO U!! XD
Agreed with everything/dont care about some stuff BESIDE ONE THING... one MAJOR OMFG thing...
The Goty Award ... LBP good.. its a fantastic amazing game.. BUT DAMNIT MGS4 IS A MASTERPIECE. I own both games, LBP is pretty warm hearted and all.. I Guess i just love the stealth / die hard hero genre more than the create and share.. both are good but MGS4 made me crai MAN! CRAI! *Cries* SO BEAUTIFUL!!! Waaaaaah!!!! *Hugs all PS3 fanboys* But.. but its okay.. yes... its okay.. ps3 yet dominated.. its okay....
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naznatips says:@ Kowenecki that's definitely true of PoP and Falllout 3, but not remotely true of Left4Dead, which sold enormously higher on PC than 360. Posted on: 01/01/09, 17:03 Report |
Torillian says:@Selnor
Do you have anything to actually back up that claim, because I doubt you've played VC, metacritic is on the side of VC, hell your only substantial argument could be sales but that's just silly. Posted on: 01/01/09, 17:09 Report |
naznatips says:Selnor, we have far more Wii owners than PS3 owners among the voting staff, and only one less 360 owner than PS3 owners.
We didn't just "pick" these, we voted on them. Sometimes, believe it or not, your opinion isn't the "best" one.
Also, if I was going to pick a 360 JRPG (and I wouldn't this year, TWEWY was my pick even above Valkyria), then it would go to Tales of Vesperia, not Lost Odyssey. Posted on: 01/01/09, 17:11 Report |
aeontab says:I agree to many of the choices, but it has things that I do not obtain to understand. Better graphical MGS4? Gears of War 2 better visual of a game for console, Crysis Warhead, Far Cry 2 are better than MGS4. MGS4 possesss many problems related to the graphs. GTA4 is an good game, but for a GTA it disappointed Posted on: 01/01/09, 17:30 Report |
TyePhoid_PAL says:@ Starcraft, NO GeoW2 does'nt look as good as MGS4. Gears 2 looks great but seriously look again its nothing on MGS4 Posted on: 01/01/09, 17:31 Report |
Flame says:@starcraft
GeOW2 is an excellent title... but MGS4 does have the better visuals. I mean seriously Act 1 and 2. Do you not see how they throw you into a warzone with bombs bursting, mechanical birds flying through the air gunning the enemy down. Ive beaten GeOW1 and 2 and ill tell you the immerson in MGS4 is way better. So many "Oh shit" moments in that game i loved it. Posted on: 01/01/09, 17:49 Report |
loy310 says:LBP and PS3 total ownage, next year will be a lot better for SONY. Posted on: 01/01/09, 17:56 Report |
Snesboy says:Rock Band 2 > GHWT
I'm sorry, I agree with Phendrana Posted on: 01/01/09, 17:57 Report |
pearljammer says:Fantastic job with these awards. Surprisingly, I can't disagree with hardly any of them. Even some of the, undoubtedly, unpopular ones like GH:WT and Valkyria Chronicles.
The breakdown of how many consoles are owned relative to one another helps put things in perspective as well. Much appreciated. Curious about how many have PSP/DS in comparison as well though. Posted on: 01/01/09, 18:03 Report |
kirby007 says:lulz thats why i only trust vgc with salesnumbers, and not reviewing games lmao Posted on: 01/01/09, 18:03 Report |
Sylvain316 says:LBP is overrated ! Posted on: 01/01/09, 18:22 Report |
selnor says:Current Best Graphics of 2008 awards currently have Gears at 2 and MGS4 at 1. So no.
Gears 2 is a notch above evrything currently on the market right now (excluding PC). It's so obvious, it'll break your TV. Posted on: 01/01/09, 18:49 Report |
roynohra says:LBP is a good game but in my opinion Fallout 3 and MGS are better!
And MGS is not a TPS game, it fails if you consider it like that! GOW 2 is the winner!!!! Posted on: 01/01/09, 18:49 Report |
Magnific0 says:I definitely didn't see this one coming from this site... Posted on: 01/01/09, 19:05 Report |
sebzhdrck says:In your face M$, back to what you know to do, OS.
Nice for Nintendo Excellent for PS3.
2008 PS3 year, so will the following... Posted on: 01/01/09, 19:09 Report |
pollolealps3 says:lMao and every1 say that the x360 has better games than pS3.....i still think that ps3 have better 1s....dont u?
ps3domination here..=D Posted on: 01/01/09, 19:14 Report |
mkhairie says:Indeed... I truly ageed with the decissions... The massive fun in LBP.. Comrade Tovya!! Did you buy this game? Hope you enjoy.... Posted on: 01/01/09, 19:15 Report |
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DethLord says:To win the graphics award a game had to have both style and technical prowess. Metal Gear Solid 4 is not the best from a technical standpoint (that goes to our runner up), but it has a combination of amazingly high-quality visuals and a unique style of its own that makes it our choice for best graphics of 2008.
I agree with the list pretty much, but I cannot figure out how Crysis Warhead does not win the graphics award. Best graphics by definition means the best looking game and while MGS4 looks good it still can't hold a candle to CW.
Perhaps if by "unique style" you mean everything is green then maybe. It has a style of it's own? I'm pretty sure we've seen this "style" in any number of games lately.
Style really has little to do with it. If style was any kind of factor you could probably throw a few Wii games into the mix.
These 2 things should not really be linked together IMO.(style and technical prowess)
Style should be lumped in with art direction or something and given an award of it's own.
To use Okami as an example, Amazing style and art but great graphics? Not really. Posted on: 01/01/09, 19:20 Report |
beeje13 says:and considering there are probably less than 1000' pc's that can run crysis at full...... anyway we'll see a true comparison if it does come to consoles
great work naz Posted on: 01/01/09, 20:08 Report |
DethLord says:beeje13 says:
and considering there are probably less than 1000' pc's that can run crysis at full...... anyway we'll see a true comparison if it does come to consoles
Where do people get the idea that Crysis needs to run on the highest settings to look good?
Medium to high is still better than any console game, and lets face it what kind of PC gamer games on their parents 5 year old Dell.
After all, do the HD console fanboys hook their systems up to a 14 inch sdtv and start bragging about how good it looks?
If you game on PC and you are even remotely serious about it generally you have a little better hardware than the average joe out there. Posted on: 01/01/09, 20:45 Report |
DOATS1 says:looks like ps3 had a really good year for gaming. i don't know why that's so hard to take for some people. Posted on: 01/01/09, 20:53 Report |
Strategyking92 says:Spore should have been biggest disappointment. I sense a failure. Posted on: 01/01/09, 21:49 Report |
kabhold says:Great list Posted on: 01/01/09, 21:57 Report |
shanezx says:so when do vgchartz release their real GOTY list, obviously this has to be a joke Posted on: 01/01/09, 22:00 Report |
Hephaestos says:how can most inovative be anything but wii fit???
Similarly, the GOTY shoudl be Wii Fit, it is the phenomenon game of the year, the one that will be talked about and keep selling for many years too...
I dunno but your list seems very PS3 biased....Yeah best overall graphics to a console game, not shortsighted at all....I'm gonna end up not reading the news section on this site for anything non stat at this rate.... Posted on: 01/01/09, 22:11 Report |
ameratsu says:This is probably the best list I've seen this year. Good job VGC staff, you really covered all your bases. Posted on: 01/01/09, 22:37 Report |
Nets535 says:WAAAAAHOOOO!!!! LBP WHOLEFULLY DESERVES 2008 GOTY! CONGRATULATIONS LBP! Posted on: 01/01/09, 22:37 Report |
Gobias says:@Selnor
Was that supposed to be your proof, mindless fanboy ramblings?
It'll break your tv? wtf?
Could someone please give an accurate list of how many sites have awarded MGS4 the overall graphics award, compared to gears of war 2 or crysis so we can end this pointless argument? Posted on: 01/01/09, 22:37 Report |
DOATS1 says:gears 2 looked like gears 1 imho. there were improvements, but they weren't ground breaking. though that's not a bad thing, i just think gears 2 graphics are overrated. they're impressive, but it ain't amazing. i can't comment on mgs4 as i haven't played it. Posted on: 01/01/09, 22:49 Report |
Batman...WTF? says:A lot more Wii spots than I would've imagined... Posted on: 01/01/09, 22:54 Report |
CGI-Quality says:A great list indeed. The PS3's exclusives are rockin the internet right now! LBP or MGS4 for GOTY is well deserved, great job VG! Left 4 Dead deserved that award as well, it was a fantastic horror/shooter in 2008! Posted on: 01/01/09, 23:14 Report |
--OkeyDokey-- says:Probably should have had a best multiplayer award, too. That seems like a pretty standard one... Posted on: 01/01/09, 23:15 Report |
MontanaHatchet says:In this article, fanboys show their maturity (or lack thereof). Posted on: 01/01/09, 23:32 Report |
animexplorer says:VGchartz.. i am speechless.. simply put it is the best nominations so far. you did your research super well. nominating VC as the best jrpg = unbiased journalism.
Happy New Year! Posted on: 01/01/09, 23:33 Report |
Kaixes says:I AM ashamed of myself for not getting Valkyria Chronicles yet... Posted on: 01/01/09, 23:36 Report |
naznatips says:Yeah, sorry about the categories not being perfect guys. Next year we'll have a better representation. A multiplayer and puzzle game should have been in there. We just missed a couple. Posted on: 01/01/09, 23:39 Report |
CGI-Quality says:I don't get all the negativity, they said these awards were based on quality. Every game nominated was a game of quality. Why are some of you guys taking this so personally? Posted on: 01/02/09, 00:27 Report |
ilovetogame says:very good list. although it does seem kinda silly to have both tps and fps categories as well as breaking rpgs into a bunch of categories (just have rpgs and strategy). i'm suprised at lbp for game of the year, i woulda thought mgs4, ssbb, mario kart, and gears 2 would all have gotten much higher votes than lbp. also, whats with the mario kart hate in the comments. most likely no racing game this whole gen will touch mario kart so of course its gonna win racing game of the year. Posted on: 01/02/09, 00:50 Report |
ilovetogame says:woah, i just noticed that all 8 of the ps3 exclusive wins are from lbp, mgs4, and VC. makes the list seem not so biased towards ps3 when its just the same 3 games getting all the ps3 wins and some of those wins are questionable (specifically tps, jrpg, and maybe most innovative and goty). also i agree there should have been a best multiplayer award and best puzzler (world of goo and boom blox for the win!) Posted on: 01/02/09, 00:59 Report |
blazinhead89 says:Go LBP, MGS4 and VC, 3 awesome PS3 exclusives. lol @ Haters Posted on: 01/02/09, 01:53 Report |
KylieDog says:...and thus the reason GOTY votes shouldn't be based on voters favourite games.
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makingmusic476 says:Screw the MKWii haters! lol
And I love how quickly people go from "VGChartz is Wii biased!" to "VGChartz is ps3 biased!"
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Dallinor says:LBP deserves it! Posted on: 01/02/09, 03:30 Report |
yungmagic09 says:Interesting list, I'll have to play some of these games. Posted on: 01/02/09, 03:55 Report |
bigjon says:again, VGC has THE best GOTY list I have seen. Thank goodness, I was so tired of that overrated GTA4, getting all the love. LBP seems like a good choice, I would not have picked it, but I think it is a good pick.
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leo-j says:@Doats
Because its the 3rd place console, its supposed to be the worse console. Posted on: 01/02/09, 05:32 Report |
outlawauron says:@ makingmusic
I know! It's too funny.
Selnor, how can you say that LO is better than VC if you haven't played it? Same goes for you Shura. Posted on: 01/02/09, 05:59 Report |
Shinlock says:Ps3 isnt' the top selling console, it has some steller games.
LBP and MGS4 are high quality games.
GTA4 was a huge disappointment, sure there were games (haze) that were alot worse, but GTA3/SA set the bar really high, and they fell massively short of it. Posted on: 01/02/09, 07:44 Report |
axumblade says:wow @ PS3.
Metal Gear Solid 4, LBP and Valkyria Chronicles...
I should bookmark this page for the next time that I hear anyone bitching about this site not supporting the PS3 completely. Posted on: 01/02/09, 08:11 Report |
Spectrumglr says:don't really understand all this anti gtaIV feeling...to me GTAIV is the best of the series (and i've played GTAIII, GTA VC and GTA SA). Posted on: 01/02/09, 08:57 Report |
Smashed says:LBP well deserved! Posted on: 01/02/09, 09:15 Report |
finalsquall says:Congrats to LBP :) well deserved. I was hoping MGS4 got it but LBP is awesome :D Go Ps3 as well :) Posted on: 01/02/09, 09:30 Report |
K-DOGG says:x-play picked Fable 2, and here F2 is nowhere in sight. Hum, i wonder...... Posted on: 01/02/09, 09:32 Report |
HanzoTheRazor says:As an owner of all platforms (including PC), and someone who has played most of these games, I would like to say that this list ROX! Well done VGC.
LBP, and so too MGS4 are 2 of the best games ever created. VC, too is easily the best Jrpg of 2008. Haters, please just play them. :) Posted on: 01/02/09, 09:56 Report |
HanzoTheRazor says:Sorry, but LOL at the haters, especially Starcraft! Posted on: 01/02/09, 10:00 Report |
11ht11 says:why are so many people complaining!? Posted on: 01/02/09, 10:26 Report |
pearLy says:I cannot understand that either, 11ht11.
These are great GOTY awards with fair choices IMO.
By the way, I love your final "conclusion" at the end. Very well done! Posted on: 01/02/09, 10:49 Report |
Gab says:The racing game category is a joke, there have been a couple of great racing games this year, why put party games on the list. Burnout paradise, GRID and even GT5P (ok maybe not that last one...) Posted on: 01/02/09, 11:33 Report |
SpartanFX says:@k-dogg
that was THE only award that fable 2 won,,lool
no other website agreed .Fallout 3 won most of the RPG awards from major websites. Posted on: 01/02/09, 11:42 Report |
Aldro says:Selnor: 'Current Best Graphics of 2008 awards currently have Gears at 2 and MGS4 at 1. So no.
Gears 2 is a notch above evrything currently on the market right now (excluding PC). It's so obvious, it'll break your TV'
MGS4 has the award at :
www.spike.com
www.vgchartz.com
www.GAMESPOT.com
and soon possibly www.ign.com
Gears has it on GT and GS.
3(Soon4HopefullyXD)>2
Yay? If you cant find em let me know and ill give you the link.(Thx Leo-J). Posted on: 01/02/09, 12:09 Report |
Aldro says:Edit here are the links:
Spike = You already know...
Gamespot = http://www.gamespot.com/best-of/special-achievement/index.html?page=4
Scroll down and click on the envelope or how ever it spells.
vgchartz = just scroll up XD
(Bonus IGN):
PS3 gfx of the year goes to MGS4
360 goes to GTA IV
PC goes to crysis
You can pretty much tell its between crysis and mgs4 no? Gears 2 was nominated on gfx at 360 section but GTA IV got it lol. Posted on: 01/02/09, 12:14 Report |
amp316 says:So LBP was huge after all.
I'm just glad that Mario Kart Wii won racing game of the year.
I will say that these awards make a lot more sense the other ones that I've been seeing. It doesn't seem as though one system is favored and is pretty balanced. Posted on: 01/02/09, 12:42 Report |
mesoteto says:nah LBP should not be game of the year imo simply b/c its not that new or innovative
i mean its things people have been doing for a while on pc Posted on: 01/02/09, 13:12 Report |
Reasonable says:Good list overall. Although I'd argue both Burnout and Wipeout HD are superior racers to Mario Kart - Mario Kart is a whole lot of fun, but not the best racer IMHO.
Nice for LBP, definitely my GOTY by a fair stretch so can only agree fully with that choice.
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FreeTalkLive says:As a owner of every system mentioned except PSP, the awards look pretty good too me. I'm really glad the new Super Street Fighter II was listed as the 2nd best fighting game of the 2008 because it didn't do so well on the PS3 and Xbox 360 award lists. Even though I play my Wii more than PS3 and Xbox 360 combined, I'm not sure if Mario Kart was the best racer, though. Pure, Burnout, and Wipeout HD are all pretty good. Mario Kart will likely go on to the best sales on any racer, though. Posted on: 01/02/09, 16:15 Report |
S.T.A.G.E. says:Guitar Hero world tour should never be considered the best music game. At best it should be the runner up Rockband. I know this because i've played them both recently. Rockband still plays better. Posted on: 01/02/09, 16:24 Report |
bigjon says:I think it is funny that all of you HD boys are up in arms about MKWii getting its due. I liked burnout, but about 11 million more people say MKWii, and the fact it is still selling tells me that they must like it (or they would have sold it used, thus killing the legs) Posted on: 01/02/09, 17:17 Report |
The_vagabond7 says:I think these are good choices, and much better than the hype induced awards of most proffesional sites. I'm glad No More Heroes got the credit it deserves, and while there are one or two I disagree with (MK:wii I don't think should've beat Burnout Paradise) I think they are respectable choices. Some people are just used to the Hype=awards mentality that most professionals propagate. Posted on: 01/02/09, 18:26 Report |
Sylvain316 says:VGChartz is ps3 biased Posted on: 01/02/09, 18:45 Report |
antfromtashkent says:Best 08 list ive seen.... i do think that RB2 was better than GHTW tho but that bout it.... Graphically WT owned and the addition of the legends and rock stars was brilliant and much appretiated... as far as the gameplay it was a bit disapointing... im sure that GH brand has a HUGE potential to be the best music game but you could deffianntly tell that it was there first attempt. Posted on: 01/02/09, 19:16 Report |
radha says:great selections, LBP is amazing after the patch, and the MGS pack is amazing Posted on: 01/02/09, 19:30 Report |
saxophonehero says:GAME OF THE YEAR PS3 DOMINAT Posted on: 01/02/09, 20:08 Report |
CrunkE4 says:2008 was crazy and ive had the privilege to play all those games. LBP FTW L4D is good too. Posted on: 01/02/09, 20:15 Report |
DMeisterJ says:lol.
This thing is high-larious.
Look at the 360 fans going crazy that Microsoft didn't sweep the awards this week. With one going as far as to be angry that there is not more 360 boxarts. As Monti said, maturity is clearly lacking.
MGS4 is the best looking technically + artistically of the year. Point blank period. And best JRPG is clearly not Lost Odyssey, if you haven't played VC then maybe >_>
The list is fine, and at the end of the day, it's a list. Not indicative of your personal beliefs. If you don't like what the list is, it doesn't mean that you're wrong, or a game you believed that shouldn't win isn't deserving, it's just an opinion, so get over it. Posted on: 01/02/09, 20:40 Report |
xxxvitoxxx says:agree on everything expect GOTY.... BS to the max Posted on: 01/02/09, 20:42 Report |
heruamon says:For a site that gets slammed for being biased against ps3, this list looks like a ps3 shopping list to me... Posted on: 01/02/09, 21:04 Report |
mesoteto says:i think GOY should be Fallout 3
one its multi plat and great on all three
two its a great game that is huge in what it offers and has depth and story
three--its has some great tec achievements despite its flaws Posted on: 01/02/09, 21:11 Report |
Stats87 says:Best Sports Game should have been NHL 09, or even FIFA 09
Although, while Mario Kart Wii is a better Party Racer, I'd say Motorstorm:PR is overall better.
The rest of the list is pretty solid. Posted on: 01/02/09, 22:08 Report |
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dolemit3 says:MGS4 -- third person shooter? That's retarded. How long can you last with an all-guns-blazing strategy in MGS4? Posted on: 01/03/09, 00:46 Report |
Kyuu says:This is bull! LBP is far inferior to Metal Gear Solid 4!!! a great game, definitely. but it's not even comparable to MGS4. Posted on: 01/03/09, 01:08 Report |
sebzhdrck says:Right, MGS4 best 2008 VG experience, ever, no one can compete.
Thank you Hideo. Posted on: 01/03/09, 01:29 Report |
Dgc1808 says:Good list overall.
Best Musical Score goes to Disgaea 3
GotY goes to Metal Gear Solid 4, LBP is also a good Pic I guess.
Just My Opinion. Great list overall. Posted on: 01/03/09, 02:38 Report |
Dgc1808 says:@Gohan
You sound Jelous or something.... like your angry that your systems doesn't have these PS3 games you're talking about... Look up some of those games on this site... People Bought them. They all have more than one unit sold..... Posted on: 01/03/09, 02:40 Report |
cool48 says:What's with all the dumb excuses that since the PS3 isn't selling great it can't have awesome games!?!
And also saying that VGC is biased towards the PS3 because it turned out that it actually did have the best games this year.
Whoever thinks they can come up with a better list that everybody would agree on, I'd love to see it. Posted on: 01/03/09, 03:06 Report |
Seraphic_Sixaxis says:Wow, lots of 360 fanboy hate.
At anyrate the 360 cant win eveything, and it was obvious 2008 was PS3's year of gaming, not saying games for other consoles or handhelds was bad or anything, but PS3's was just the BEST hands down.
Its undeniable, Oh and @Selnor- you dont own a PS3 so how can you say LO > VC? dont let you're bias get in the way of results and overall quality. i've played LO and i can say VC is alot better. Posted on: 01/03/09, 03:45 Report |
bouzane says:I'm very happy to see LittleBigPlanet take the overall GOTY award, I couldn't agree more. Posted on: 01/03/09, 04:06 Report |
Tidycats29 says:I loled at the mario kart hate
mario kart wii > any other racer
Great list
i thought this list was very well done
I still expected MGS4 to get GOTY not LBP
but it wasnt a bad choice either
great job Posted on: 01/03/09, 04:23 Report |
flames_of says:The only one I really disagree with is for top Third-person shooter. Posted on: 01/03/09, 06:12 Report |
TinouX says:This is the best and (IMO) most accurate 2008 GOTY listing I've seen yet. Well done, VGC staff! Posted on: 01/03/09, 08:17 Report |
FinalEvangelion says:I guess I'm not the only one to think the PS3 really had a great line-up in 2008. As far as I'm concerned as a GAMER, and not a SALES FANBOY, PS3 had the best games for this year. 360 was good and Wii needed alot of improvement. That's where I stand right now.
Lost Odyssey definitely doesn't compare to Tales of Vesperia or Valkyria Chronicles in terms of goty.
MGS4, LBP, Valkyria Chronicles made a great year for PS3 gaming in 2008 Posted on: 01/03/09, 09:09 Report |
starcraft says:WOW lol.
Two things:
1. It's incredible that such a bland comment can evoke like seven responses all with varying levels of aggressiveness, spite and bitterness. I have spent about 1-3 face hours with MGS4 on a pretty decent television (a Sony HD in fact). To me, it simply does not look as good as Gears 2 and a couple of other games on console's this year. It CERTAINLY does not look nearly as good as Crysis Warhead. The biggest failure of this list is to allow for the inclusion of PC games and omit that glaring fact.
2. @DMeisterJ. I don't believe it, I mean I honestly don't. When VC tanked you were right there with all the other PS3 fans on this site saying I couldn't use it as an example of a JRPG that sold poorly on the PS3 because it was an SRPG and couldn't be compared to Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon etc.
Now months later when it suits you, "best JRPG is clearly not Lost Odyssey, if you haven't played VC then maybe >_>"
Wow, just wow. Posted on: 01/03/09, 10:31 Report |
konnichiwa says:I only miss Persona in the list. Then again Persona is so niche that even die hard JRPG fans don't know it. Posted on: 01/03/09, 10:36 Report |
konnichiwa says:Like I said hundred times before:
SRPG is an subcategorie of JRPG's. People who don't really play JRPG's will call VC an JRPG. JRPG fans will call VC an SRPG just like J-music who has a lot of subcategories aswell....J-pop, J-rock,J-rap etc...... Posted on: 01/03/09, 10:54 Report |
DOATS1 says:@starcraft - your first point is entirely your opinion which you're entitled to. this whole goty award was based on opinions. the majority of opinions that voted (which you had the chance to do) say that mgs4 had the best graphics. does the fact that you disagree with this make it any less valid? or are you just upset that the game of your choice didn't get the top spot? Posted on: 01/03/09, 11:23 Report |
starcraft says:Given the rather personal nature of many of the responses given here Doats, I reckon it's not me that is "upset" as you put it. 
Nonetheless, I do of course disagree. I notice noone seems particularly willing to engage with the "Crysis" point I made.
I guess to do so wouldn't be in line with attempts to mislabel me as a fanboy though huh? Posted on: 01/03/09, 11:58 Report |
Gohan says:@ Dgc1808,
why would I be angry at games that I already have. I have MGS4 and Little Big Planet. in fact those were the only two PS3 games that I brought last year, the other was WipeoutHD wich I thought was amazing. outside of that. I brought 8 games for my 360, so overall my gaming experenice for 2008 was mostly remembed by the fun I had while playing the 360. not PS3.
like I said its nice that Sony games are being toasted like this, but in reality, it doesn't mean the same for me as it means for you!.
as I thought the Xbox had the best games overall. yet there are hardly any mention of games like Ninja Gaiden 2 or Banjo which I thought were amazing.
just my opinion though...so be careful when pre-judging.
for the record, my game of the year was Fallout 3. much better than LBP. I doubt anyone would say otherwise if they played both. Posted on: 01/03/09, 12:21 Report |
CGI-Quality says:@ Gohan
I have both played both Fallout 3 and LBP. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I enjoyed LBP MUCH more than I enjoyed Fallout 3, and I'm quite sure I'm not the only one who feels THAT way either. But regardless this list is not about my personal tastes, or yours.
To other people: why do some of ya'll take this so personal? This is ALL opinions in here, your lives will not end because of this list so chill out, it's not that serious... Posted on: 01/03/09, 16:25 Report |
naznatips says:I played both and Fallout 3 wasn't even in my top 5. It's actually probably not in my top 10 come to think of it. Posted on: 01/03/09, 16:37 Report |
Torillian says:You have to know talking in absolutes like "anyone who played both would agree with me" is never going to work out for you.
I played both as well, and like Naz it's not even close. Posted on: 01/03/09, 16:43 Report |
Ps3Fanboy says:Way to go PS3 for getting all them amazing awards for Little Big Planet and MGS4. Posted on: 01/03/09, 20:45 Report |
Retrasado says:the only one I really disagree with MGS4 for TPS. As an overall game, MGS4 owns Gears (imho), but Gears is definitely a better TPS. Other than that one, I agree with all of the picks.
And I'm telling you, if anyone out there says LBP doesn't deserve GOTY, I can absolutely guarantee you they have never played it. That game is one of the best (if not the best) game I've ever played. Period. Posted on: 01/03/09, 21:17 Report |
Hraesvelgr says:Amusingly, if this list consisted mostly of 360 titles, the PS3 owners would be complaining about bias towards the 360 and the 360 owners would be going on about how 2008 was year of the 360. Funny how that works.
Also, the list is based off of *their* opinions. You don't have to like it, but whining about it doesn't change anything.
@Retrasado: I played LBP and I can absolutely guarantee you it doesn't deserve GOTY. You know, my opinion and all that. At least my opinion is informed though, right? Posted on: 01/03/09, 21:51 Report |
DMeisterJ says:@ Starcraft
So I'm a hypocrite sue me. Good thing this article isn't about my hypocrisy isn't it? (On a side-note, VC is a SRPG, a sub-section of JRPGs and RPGs in general. And talk about "personal responses" you're talking about what I said in a thread, and about what the contributors, and moderators voted on. And on that note, like Torillian said, you should have voted if that isn't what you believed, or brought it up in conversation. Back to my side-note, WKC has disproved your idiotic JRPGs cant sell on PS3 argument, so that's neither here nor there what I said, since you were incorrect anyway). Back on topic, like I said, Valkyria Chronicles is above and beyond, and even if VC didn't win, TWEWY would have won. (On another side-note, I'd like to know what place Lost Odyssey came in the "Best JRPG" race. I mean, if it didn't even chart, then the argument is moot at best, so Torillian/Naz, do you think you could divulge the details?).
And of course MGS4 wouldn't look as good as Gears 2 to you. I mean, since we're being honest here, you are a Microsoft Fanboy, and I don't know many of them who would admit a game on another console looking better. And while Crysis: Warhead may be technically better, artistically, it lacks, especially compared to MGS4, and not every single person that owns the game can make it look as beautiful (technically) as it should.
At the end of the day, these are the opinions of the staff on the site, and if you don't like it, maybe next year you'll vote and make a difference. You really should stop complaining if you didn't vote. You have no right to complain without expressing your right to vote.
It's so sad. Videogames on competing consoles get rewards, and all this fighting for a virtual award for a company that doesn't care about you. Maybe next year Microsoft will put out higher quality exclusives and be better represented with exclusive titles. Let's hope for that so that 360 fans don't lose their shit two years in a row. >_> Posted on: 01/03/09, 22:33 Report |
akuma587 says:OMG LBP! Posted on: 01/03/09, 22:52 Report |
blazinhead89 says:Akuma's late to the party lol Posted on: 01/03/09, 23:04 Report |
a3hmax says:żLITTLE BIG PLANET GAME OF THE YEAR?
I can´t believe that, It haven´t any real innovation, it´s just another 2.5D plattaform game, nothing new, only the editor. Posted on: 01/03/09, 23:14 Report |
Sylvain316 says:@a3hmax
Agree with you : nothing really new with that game. VGChartz are ps3 biased Posted on: 01/03/09, 23:53 Report |
DaCountOfFat says:Can't really argue about too much on this list of awards - I tend to agree with almost every catagory.. Posted on: 01/04/09, 01:29 Report |
starcraft says:@DMJ
As I already explained to Torillian privately, I was unable to vote, so that is neither here nor there. I have never once argued that the PS3 cannot sell JRPG's. I have argued that you have had no evidence that it can.
Even now, the sales of WKC are ok, not great. The difference of course is that I have not made personal attacks like yourself and your PS3 owning friends. I have an opinion, it's different to yours. I've simply pointed out that your opinion is not as well founded as you would like to believe.
Once again, you ignored Crysis. Posted on: 01/04/09, 01:54 Report |
Aionic_Kid says:Definitely Burnout Paradise better than Mario Kart. I miss a mention to Patapon, but otherwise the list is reasonable, and an interesting departure from other sites to give LBP GOTY.
Happy new year VGChartz Posted on: 01/04/09, 03:09 Report |
outlawauron says:@ starcraft
Crysis, technically, looks better than MGS4 and Gears 2 but being that the games are not on the same platform (and most haven't gotten the chance to play it due to the high specs) which is why I think it didn't get the votes. I wouldn't vote for Crysis due to the fact that I haven't played it. I can't. I don't have the PC for it. Posted on: 01/04/09, 04:24 Report |
DMeisterJ says:@ Starcraft
Blind?
And while Crysis: Warhead may be technically better, artistically, it lacks, especially compared to MGS4, and not every single person that owns the game can make it look as beautiful (technically) as it should.
I didn't resort to any personal attacks in either of my posts. At least not about you. If you felt offended by anything I said, I can't help if I hit the nail on the head, but if you saw something as a personal attack, you must need to grow thicker skin.
More off-topic: This isn't about WKC, a game that outsold every 360 JRPG in JP in three days, being "okay" according to you, a Microsoft Fanboy (IMO, of course), but about how even if VC didn't win JRPG of the year, TWEWY would have won, and Lost Odyssey would have still lost. And like I said, I'd like to see if LO even charted, and if so where, so that we can put this argument to rest. Whether or not VC is a JRPG or not is neither here nor there, especially in your argument since TWEWY would have won also.
And whatever circumstances beyond your control stopped you from voting is all well and good, and I hope all is well, but still, you didn't vote, therefore you can't have much of a say in this. Blame whatever happened to you, but it still doesn't give you the right to bitch and moan about a game that you didn't vote for. That's the way the cookie crumbles, so you just have to get over it. >_>
Back on topic: And as I stated, Technically, MGS4 is definitely behind Crysis (those handful of people that can run it at full specs), but artistically, it's tons better. Obviously that is everyone's opinion, and as a eligible voter, you were able to vote and could have changed things around. But the overwhelming opinion is that MGS4 artistically > Crysis Artistically. Even though it's subjective, more people were on the MGS4 side. There's nothing you can argue about that.
Off-off-off topic:
It seems to me that the majority of people who disagree with winners on this list are Microsoft Fanboys that need some form of validation for their purchase. It's freaking virtual awards that don't affect the fun you have on this game. People would be wise to get over these stupid awards and move on with life. If you enjoy a game and believe it should have won and didn't, there's not much you can do about that, but get over it and have fun with your game. Posted on: 01/04/09, 04:44 Report |
--OkeyDokey-- says:Somehow I doubt Starcraft would be playing the Crysis card if Gears had won... Posted on: 01/04/09, 05:27 Report |
AE86 says:Wow, DMJ just walked all over Starcraft, and all the other Microsoft fanboys. Good show. Posted on: 01/04/09, 05:48 Report |
starcraft says:@DMeisterJ
You are having an argument against a constructed competitor that doesn't exist. You DID ignore my argument about Crysis. MGS4 looks similar artistically to a number of games (hell, it doesn't look too different to Gears2).
As for Lost Odyssey? I haven't once said it should have received JRPG of the year. Where on earth have you gotten that impression? I simply pointed out the hypocrisy you have personally developed over time on the "VC as a JRPG" issue. On the contrary, I have been desperately searching stores here in Sydney for a copy of TWEWY but am unable to find it.
I said I didn't vote, and I didn't once bitch and moan about that fact. You have simultaneously said that different opinions are all fine and dandy, before turning around and attempting to deny my right to have one?
Back on MGS4, I would once again contest that it is anything impressive artistically. It is very pretty yes, but it is in no way unique. Hell, here a game like TWEWY would shine again.
And now to cover your final point, in conjunction with your "thick skin" comment. I didn't once say I was in any way offended or hurt by any of your (or anyone else's) comments. On the contrary, I pointed out that the need to defend one's opinions with an arrogance and rather rude attitude such as many have displayed here is an indication that some people need to as you say, "just get over it?" Posted on: 01/04/09, 13:15 Report |
DMeisterJ says:@ OkeyD
Of course not
@ AE86
Thanks!
@ Starcraft
I'm in no mood to argue over virtual awards now. It proves no purpose. VC won JRPG of the year, and MGS4 is best graphically. There's nothing you can do now but just get over it.
Fitting. Posted on: 01/04/09, 13:23 Report |
starcraft says:I love it when he pretends not to care after his big long spiels
It means "no comment." Posted on: 01/04/09, 13:36 Report |
naznatips says:As requested, the details on JRPG of the year in the staff voting:
1) Valkyria Chronicles
2) The World Ends With You
3) Chrono Trigger DS
4) Final Fantasy IV DS
5) Tales of Vesperia
6) Lost Odyssey
Forum vote we only go down to top 3, but it went:
1) Valkyria Chronicles
2) The World Ends With You
3) Chrono Trigger DS
It seems the general consensus is that Lost Odyssey was not among the top 5 JRPGs this year. I agree with this consensus. Posted on: 01/04/09, 16:01 Report |
nightsurge says:I guess this is what you get when a website that is predominantly Sony and secondly Nintendo fans votes for GotY awards across all platforms. MGS4 best graphics? No. LBP Game of the Year? No. Guitar Hero: WT better than Rock Band 2? No. This website, as obvious in the forums, picks lesser known games and tends to give them more credit than they are due. Not saying these lesser known gems are bad games, just not worth the GotY awards. Posted on: 01/04/09, 18:58 Report |
DMeisterJ says:@ Naz
Thanks
@ Starcraft
I mean, what do you want me to say? I said Valkyria wasn't a JRPG, and now it won JRPG of the year, and I'm happy. Sue me. I mean, so what? What's the point? What's the big idea? It's the internet. And you're arguing against the opinion that MGS4 Graphically is the best. It's opinion. Everyone has one, and this was the collective opinion of the staff of VGC. What are you bitching and moaning about? I'm a hypocrite and someone's opinion is different than yours? So the fuck what?
>_> Posted on: 01/04/09, 20:06 Report |
Seraphic_Sixaxis says:Im quite amused. please continue. Posted on: 01/05/09, 01:24 Report |
starcraft says:Thats just it DMJ, you seem to be getting yourself all worked up. I have said I disagreed. You could have disagreed with me in turn, but instead you seem to be on a mission to invalidate any opinion that isn't either your own, in support of Sony, or both.
So far as I can tell, I haven't bitched and moaned once. I pointed out your hypocrisy which you have noted and will hopefully address in the future. Posted on: 01/05/09, 06:09 Report |
BengaBenga says:Nightsurge: Just be glad there actually is a website that doesn't get caught up in all the big-budget hype and dares to give Valkyria the JRPG of the year award and GTAIV most dissapointing. Your statement that lesser known games aren't worthy of an award is sad, actually. Especially because it seems to be the opinion of most gaming media.
Your "Sony and Nintendo bias" is completely ridiculous as far as the staff goes. Most own at least 3 platforms. Speaking for myself I completely agree with most of the awards, despite owning all platforms but the Sony ones. I've played Valkyria for a short while and I loved it. I loved LO, TWEWY and FF4 as well this year, but definitely think VC is a good pick. Posted on: 01/05/09, 10:23 Report |
DMeisterJ says:@ starcraft
Oh, don't try to turn this around on me.
Please don't. It definitely was not my comment that set this off. Your bitching and moaning about VC and hypocrisy is what started this off. Posted on: 01/05/09, 12:19 Report |
starcraft says:Again, there was never any bitching and moaning on my part. You have had plenty of opportunities to point out any specific phrase that you would characterize as such, and have not taken them.
This is simply a case of you saying people are entitled to their opinions, but then taking it to heart when someone disagrees with yours. I pointed out your hypocrisy, you agreed with me. Then you invented some notion that I had claimed Lost Odyssey should be JRPG of the year in a rather innocuous attempt at labeling me a fanboy. Posted on: 01/05/09, 13:23 Report |
DMeisterJ says:Agreed, correct, what the fuck ever.
Are we done here now? Posted on: 01/05/09, 13:42 Report |
starcraft says:No need for language buddy.
You need to take the internet a little less seriously.
Posted on: 01/05/09, 13:44 Report |
BengaBenga says:OK, both Starcraft and DMJ: you'll leave this topic NOW. I don't want any post of yours in this newsitem anymore. I'm serious. Posted on: 01/05/09, 14:44 Report |
nightsurge says:I never said anything about VC being a bad game. I'm sure it is a great game, but I think LO or TWEWY is better. VC deserves the "Best Game No One's Played" but I don't think it deserves best strategy game. I'm not biased against Sony or Nintendo at all. In fact, I used to own all 3 consoles plus a DS till I sold the DS and Wii since there weren't enough games to justify keeping it.
I was merely pointing out that when the majority of users are Sony and Nintendo fans, this is what you should expect. I don't disagree with any of the Nintendo games that won, just the Best Graphics and GotY awards clearly show a majority of Sony voters, especially if PC games were included. Posted on: 01/05/09, 14:52 Report |
bardicverse says:I dont get how LBP is given Most Innovative, unless there was just nothing that truly was innovative. I find LBP to be an okay idea at best. Rehashing a platformer with an editor isn't really innovative, but whatever. Posted on: 01/05/09, 18:17 Report |
Soriku says:@DMJ
Lies, VC and ToV look better than MGS4! :P
But that's only because I like cel shading better.
Nice list. I don't think anything was really out of place. I think TWEWY may have beaten out VC as best RPG...but I haven't played VC so can't really say. Posted on: 01/05/09, 21:26 Report |
Blacksaber says:Wow this thread went crazy >_> Posted on: 01/05/09, 21:33 Report |
Phoenix_34 says:Sweet No More Heroes got best action! I recommend everyone rent it at least once, its a fun game to vent anger. Posted on: 01/05/09, 21:41 Report |
RTTECH82 says:I have been a Metal Gear Solid fan since the beginning and I still think its the best FPS ever! Go Solid Snake!
Jess
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XanderZane says:Awards look pretty biase to me. Best Racing games Mario Kart? LOL!! Best 3rd person shooter MGS IV? It's not really a shooter. Best WRPG Fallout 3 is good, but runner up Mass Effect? Thought that came out last year. I would sat Fable 2 as runner up or best WRPG. Best Sports game Shaun White Snowboarding? LMAO!! No, just no!! Not even close. Valkyria Chronicles is a decent JRPG, but there were other that were just as good or better. Tales of Vesperia was excellent. So was Chrono Trigger (DS). GTA IV was not disappointing. I agree that it wasn't a "10", but neither was MGS IV. Both games were not disappointing, but not perfect either. Posted on: 01/06/09, 05:50 Report |
XanderZane says:kutasek says:
Wow people, saying it doesn't have credibility, get over it. This list is not to please people, it's THEIR LIST, deal with it, and happy new year. Thanks for giving credit to VC.
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Well, you got that right. It's definitely THEIR LIST and not anyone elses. Most knowledgable gamers would disagree with many of the awards on this list. People need to stop taking this so seriously though. Every site has their own list and I'm sure they are all different. Whether you agree or not, it's not a big deal. Just find a site with awards that agree with you. Posted on: 01/06/09, 05:57 Report |
outlawauron says:@ Xander
There is a large difference in the reviews for MGS 4 and GTA 4. MGS 4 isn't even in the top 75 top reviewed games of all time whereas GTA is number one. Posted on: 01/06/09, 07:23 Report |
Faxanadu says:The charts got taste. Posted on: 01/06/09, 15:54 Report |
BTFeather55 says: I don't know how a game featuring the best music of any game released last year (A soundtrack featuring Fleetwood Mac, The Allman Brothers, great Euro tunes, Ace Frehley and when Ace kicks in singing "Back in the New York Groove, " you feel like GTA is back from Vice City and San Andreas and back to where to where it really belongs in Liberty City; Smashing Pumpkins in their glory days, The Stooges' best song, and the Sisters of Mercy among others as evidence), the best new character, and at worst the second best story of the year can be the most disappointing game of the year. But to each his own I guess.
See, rather than getting into it, I can honestly say there's a pretty good chance that I've lived a rather different life than I would imagine most of the posters here at VGChartz have and from my perspective much as I can see how The Devil's Rejects is one of the finest movies of the past decade I can also see how GTA IV is the best of the GTA games or at least since GTA III (and much better than Vice City with its Miami Vice designed thematics and San Andreas and its more pop oriented designed characters that would have more appeal to the general public (ie. rappers and hip hop community type characters) but actually not be as interesting from a deeper human perspective than the Eastern European immigrants like Nico Bellic featured in GTA IV).
Also, GTA IV was penalized for a lot of the things you could do in San Andreas that you can't do in GTA IV. However, I think those were largely humourous type or unlikely type things that were removed from San Andreas and not included in GTA IV and you should expect such deletions for the game and story being in a more serious world. And yes, they were there in the more cartoonish Saint's Row 2 as they should have been included in a more satirical game.
There should have been a category for Sandbox Game of the Year.
I think GTA IV it was a great outing for the series a return to where it should be storywise from Vice City and San Andreas, and I hope the GTA series' stories continue down more serious paths for years to come. Posted on: 01/06/09, 16:10 Report |
COKTOE says:I like. Posted on: 01/07/09, 08:10 Report |
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Metal Gear Solid 4 just edges out Gears of War 2 in the third person shooter category. It's interesting to see it do so well here, considering this is the first game in the franchise that has ever had enough of a shooting aspect to qualify for placement in this category, but MGS4 did a good job with its third-person shooting mechanics and is our choice for TPS Game of the Year. 
Left 4 Dead takes the first-person shooter award with its unique approach to the genre. Rather than add a bunch of levels that you will play the same way over and over, Valve has created a game where each experience is different. With the promise of more levels in the future by both Valve and the mod community, this is a first person shooter that will be enjoyed for many years to come.
One of the most addictive genres in gaming, the arcade shooter, had a very strong representation in 2008. At the top of a bevy of great titles was Geometry Wars 2, with many new modes and unique additions to the gameplay that set it apart from and above both its predecessor and its competitors in the genre. 
A surprise upset in the Action genre, No More Heroes beats out Devil May Cry 4 in both the staff and user votes. As a unique tribute to old 80s video games, and a funny mocking approach to the bloody action and anime games released these days, No More Heroes earned itself the top spot among a lot of strong action releases this year.
Just edging out Okami, the beautiful Prince of Persia took the top spot for Adventure games. A great story and an absolutely gorgeous original setting make it a strong representation of the adventure genre. The characters are well-balanced, and the relationship between the Prince and Elika is developed extremely well; especially considering the game lets you choose the order in which you progress the story. 
Not much of a surprise here. The adorable sackboys take the award for best platformer by storm. LittleBigPlanet's unique take on level design wins it a spot in the hearts of gamers, and the absolute joy of jumping around with four buddies in the level you made together is unmatched by anything else this year in the platforming genre. 
With a level of variety unmatched by anything else in the genre, Super Smash Bros. Brawl stormed into the Fighting Game of the Year position. Brawl comes equipped with a massive unique character roster, 41 different playable stages, a stage creator, and more game modes than anything else in the history of the fighting genre. It will be hard to take the crown from this king of fighting games.
Of all the genres in gaming, none are more dependant on great local multiplayer than the racing genre. Mario Kart Wii takes the fun of local racing to a whole new level. The Wii Wheel adds a whole new dimension to the chaotic fun, and the speed and crazy chaos of items is still in tact. If great gamres are fun games, Mario Kart is among the best. 
Valkyria Chronicles just edges out The World Ends With You for this award. Valkyria Chronicles approaches the genre with a style different from most. Rather than large overworlds filled with towns, explorations, and characters, VC spends most of its focus on the combat, and the unique development of it's very good story through its storybook style. The addition of full-team experience and a class-wide leveling system eliminates the issue many other RPGs have of unbalanced leveling, and no grinding is ever necessary to beat the game.
Fallout 3 may not have been able to keep every Fallout fan happy, but it is a great dystopian RPG nonetheless. The VATS system is engaging and fun, the world is beautiful and detailed, and there is enough to do to keep you playing for hours. With the recent release of the extremely well-designed GECK mod tools by Bethesda on PC, you can make the game into whatever you want!
One of the greatest challenges in gaming falls into the laps of the MMO developers. That challenge is to keep adding content for the long-time players, while keeping the game fun and accessible to those who are new or do not spend as much time in the game. Wrath of the Lich King does a brilliant job of this, with faster leveling, tons of dungeons playable by anyone, lots of new single-player content like daily quests, and a cinematic experience previously unmatched in any MMORPG. If you were still waiting for an excuse to jump in, this is it. The Lich King awaits you. 
If you thought Rock Band had no competition in full-band games from the Guitar Hero franchise, you were wrong. World Tour wins both the staff and reader picks for music game of the year. The game comes equipped with a very good track list composed of nothing but master recordings, an improved guitar and drumset over all other models in the genre before it, and much better single-player gameplay than its competitor. Rock on Activision. We're still playing.
The word "unique" doesn't even begin to describe Wii Fit. Truly a game like nothing else in gaming, Wii Fit creates and creates a strong, fun, and surprisingly effective excersize regiment for the gamer. The balance board it comes with has already seen some creative use in other games in the industry, and it will be interesting to see if anyone comes up with a competitor to this enjoyable fitness game.
A surprise upset in the sports category, Shawn White: Road Trip on Wii takes the award. One of the above mentioned games taking advantage of the balance board, Shawn White is a blast to play on the device. Someday Nintendo may release a 1080 game that uses the balance baord, but until then, this is the snowboarding experience to be had on game systems. 
Most disappointing game does not mean worst game. Most disappointing game is the game that fell the furthest from expectations. Winner by a landslide both for the staff and readers was Grand Theft Auto IV. Many people were excited by the idea of a next-gen Grand Theft Auto game because they wanted to see what new crazy things could be done with the power fo the Playstation 3 and Xbox 360. Unfortunately, Rockstar decided that GTAIV was a time to remove features rather than add them, and dozens of the gameplay features that allowed the player freedom and creativity in the previous games in the franchise are now non-existent for the sake of a serious action game. GTAIV is a good action game, but a bad GTA game. 
