I'm gonna mark for Hillary Clinton in 2008...

...and that's why it would rule.

That wouldn't rule for anybody. That would be worse than 2004's major
two choices.

I think Clinton talks a good game, but really doesnt back it up. To
someone who doesnt look past what image she presents, she may seem like
the perfect choice, but if you dig a little deeper, you find out she is
still a little green.

When it comes down to it, neither are the ideal political canidate, but
for purposes of making a statement, both have enough skills and
potential.

No argument there. But I'm speaking strictly from a "I hate Hillary Clinton
and her sense of entitlement" point of view. I get the feeling that Hillary
thinks she's the Democratic party's "heir apparent" and that she'll waltz
into the whitehouse in 2008 by simply throwing her hat into the ring.

Condi Rice would bitchslap her on all fronts.
Minority...Woman...Young...Accomplished...well Educated...she's everything
that Hillary fashions herself as, except Condi would whip her ass. It'd be a
great thing to watch, purely as a spectator.

Weep for our country if either one of these actually wind up being the
choice, but if Hilllary decided to run in 2008, there'd be no bigger ass
whipping than going against a Condi with momentum.

--

There's always one fuckhead like you trying to shit in the apple pie. Well
you just shat in the one apple pie that knows how to shit back.

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"Google Beta User" <maji...@cs.com> wrote in message
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For Rice, I cannot know, she seemed to be a little worried when she did
her tour in Europe, getting up and doing the speaking. She certainly
has done it in the past as an educator, but adapting to the new stage
is a big step. If she can hone her skills it will help her, but we are
still about 3 years from when another campaign cycle for the White
House is going to ramp up. We'll have to see. The "neocons" are also
weak on the right in domestic issues. Buchanan has warned about
immigration, but I believe gun rights are a bigger issue. Some of the
neocons are big on gun control, and Bush came out and said he would
have signed a renewal of the 1994 assault weapon bill if it passed
Congress (It didn't, thanks to the changes in Congress since mid 1994
or so when it passed the first time, which spared Bush the choice.)
There are othe issues out there, and the first President Bush was hurt
when he passed a prior ban in 1991 or so and ripped the NRA. A lot of
domestic issues conservatives were pissed, and it may have hurt him in
places like West Virginia. At the time, with Clinton being a
southerner, some gun types didn't see much difference in who got in
that year. Rice is from California, so it might come up, at least in
discussions within the party leadership. It cannot be forgotten how
huge the NRA was for GWB in 2000, they helped in West Virgina and a lot
of rural states, Possibly New Hampshire as well. Had West Virginia or
Tennessee (Gore's home state) gone for Gore. (Or Arkansas, btw) Gore
would have won, Florida or no. Gun rights were a huge issue that the
NRA was talking about in those states. Wayne LaPierre and Charlton
Heston were all over West Virginia that year speaking to blue collar
union workers who voted Democrat a lot of the time. Right now the heat
from the gun debate seems to have turned down nationally, we'll see if
that trend holds. If it does, it won't be as much of an issue within
the party (especially as long as the GOP controls congress, with a
heavy base or rural GOP Represenatives.)

Also, Hillary Clinton would have problems getting those voters. It
would be hard for her to shake the baggage. But the GOP thinking that
the sporting crowd will go to the polls for them automatically would be
a mistake. Right now those folks are mostly voting GOP out of the
foreign policy issues. Four years from now, we'll see....

You're so completely wrong.

You couldn't have been more wrong if you had simply written random words.

They'll vote for her so they can hold themselves up as superiors to the
liberals. That's *precisely* why they'll vote for her, and those are the
things they'll say when they do. They'll say, "she's African American, She's
a Woman, She's young and well educated...See? The republican party embraces
minorities and women...". It'll be the rallying cry of the right wing, to
*prove* that liberals don't have a "lock" on "helping minorities and women".
They've been obsessed with "out liberaling" the liberals on minority issues,
and stealing their minority platforms for the last decade. Condi just
reinforces their entire platform.

as a south carolinian, you should know better.

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:35:34 -0500, "Krusty" <rspwk...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Leader Desslok

www.geocities.com/steveinprague

Cherish your friends, respect your enemies, kill the ignorant

Jaws is from Compton? If I saw a 35-foot shark rollin up on his bling-bling packin a gat demanding my cheese I'd superfreak.

I feel sorry for you. Everyone else lives in 2005 and you're stuck in some
bad 1963 cliche and can't ever grow beyond the stereotypes and cliches that
make you feel comfortably "superior".

Everyone in a "Red State" is a walking talking southern cliché, complete
with Klan ropes and lynchings. Everyone is a "bible thumper" and a
conservative Christian fundamentalist. Everyone in a red state hates niggers
and Jews, and they all talk with southern drawls.

Yes, you live in a fantasy world of bad clichés. The funniest part, is when
you tell others to "grow" or "expand" or "evolve" and here you sit,
comfortably stupid in a bad Porky's movie. Meanwhile Colin Powell is
Secretary of State, Condi Rice is the most powerful woman in American
History, and the world just keeps on moving past you.

God how I pity your intellectual superiority complex.

i'm from one, and while they don't outwardly appear this way the dominant
party votes to keep this mindset the status quo...in very subtle ways.

Another "genius" heard from...birds of a feather I guess...

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"~Îñ©üßü§~" <~Îñ©üßü§~@SexGodForWomen.com> wrote in message
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> POTDecade

Your mistake is that I get the sense you are assuming that what you
would do, and/or what makes sense to you is what would actually happen.

Look, we're just coming off of an election that was won by a "moral
values" crowd. In close elections (which it seems like is just the
way things are for now) they are still a very powerful voice. The
Religious lobby, the social conservatives if you will.

Perhaps there will be a battle during the primaries within the
Republican party. The social moderates versus the social
conservatives.

I hate to say it, but the country is not ready to vote in a woman which
is pretty sad, because as I pointed out and you agreed with, there are
Hindu and ISLAMIC countries which have (had) female heads of state.

But then again what can you expect from voters that vote to protect the
country from "marrying fags"?

like I said, birds of a feather....

:LOL.

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"Your mistake is that I get the sense you are assuming that what you would

I happen to think people have no problem voting for whoever is *their*
candidate. If the republican party propped her up at the convention and sold
her to the American public, wrapped in a flag and sold under the premise
that "this was a *historic moment* when the Republican Party looked beyond
race or color, and elected the first woman to the White House". You
underestimate the value of style over substance and a properly marketed and
positioned candidate placed within the right context.

There's nothing that would please the Republican party more than stealing
the Democratic party's thunder.

And don't forget Sylvester Croom is the greatest football coach in the
history of football.

--
Tsar Andy Atkinson - CROOM~

"If they call a celebration penalty on this, I'll shoot them."
- Jack Cristil on Jerious Norwood's game-winning TD over Fl*rida

This post is rated P.A.

Card-carrying member of the B.O.B.

You're wisdom is surpassed only by your ignorance.

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"Chad Bryant" <webm...@chadbryant.cjb.net> wrote in message
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> Having been born (and spent a good third of my childhood) in and around
> the old CSA, I'm more than qualified to make observations on this
> subject. More recently, I had to live in two of the reddest red states
> for six months. For someone who was taught (and teaches) that words like
> "nigger" or "coon" are not acceptable vernacular when spoken in a hateful
> manner, it was absolute hell. I wish it were simply "cliches" or
> "stereotypes", but it's not. It's very real, and your denial of it is
> disheartening.
>
> And for the record, I currently reside in a red state that isn't even
> close to being as socially divided as OK or GA, but it's still bad
> enough.

> The sad part is, for most of the "red states", it's still 1963, where
> people like Fritz Hollings, Trent Lott, Robert Byrd, and Jesse Helms are
> acceptable, dignified gentlemen, instead of the hateful, unevolved,
> backwoods pieces of shit that the more intelligent areas of this country
> accurately view them as.
>
> I know it makes you feel better to sit in your glass house in the south's
> semi-intellectual oasis and pretend that certain parts of this country
> have evolved, but sadly, they haven't - no matter how much you wish it
> were true.
>
> --
> Chad Bryant
> Annoying The Ignorant Online Since 1995
> http://www.chadbryant.cjb.net/
>
> The great will always soar above the mediocre.
> They create, while others destroy.

Really? I've watched the Space Shuttle take off, so I guess that makes me
more than qualified to make observations about being an Astronaut.

and judging by the wasp males lining up for the republican nomination three
years in advance, you know it is going to be politics as usual in the
gop....the usual crop of southerners and midwesterners are gearing up in the
primary states.

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"Steve D. Perkins" <dontwri...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> The idea that Condi Rice would even WANT to run for President is
> pretty far-fetched. The idea that she could win the REPUBLICAN
> nominatation, however, is just ridiculous e-fed booking. She wouldn't
> break double-digits in her own homestate's primary if that gay-prostitute
> reporter-plant were the only other person running.
>
> At the same time, this "Hillary '08" thing is just political dorks
> jerking each other's wangs, dreaming about an election cycle more
> interesting that the past two. If Hillary ran, that shit would come
> crashing down on her in a heartbeat in Iowa just as Dean-a-mania did.
> She's not electable and everyone knows it, even if her candidacy is
> something interesting to talk about between now and then.
>
>

Um, no. Try again?

He wants to drag you into a stupid flame war that he always seems to get off
on starting. Does anybody even read alt.flame.rspw?

I don't think you know what a red herring is...

LH: analogies != red herring

lmao...I always have to wonder what color the sky is in your world...

Priceless....

ROR. The resident redneck makes an appearance. This thread has it all!

--
C The Shocker
Never trust a big butt and a smile!

Steve D. is 100% right about all of this.

Krusty, you know I respect you, but I gotta ask you this. How many
black, elected officials on the federal level in the country today are
Republican? I'm assuming that you know the answer and that you can
guess my follow-up rhetorical question/point.--Joe (n.j.) [mWo]

You "refuted" nothing.

You're wrong. You think in stereotypes and bad cliches and you use "I grew
up there" as an (incorrect) excuse to think continue thinking backwards (I
guess it's institutional stupidity). The analogy was correct. Simply because
you "were born there" doesn't serve as a viable excuse to continue thinking
of everyone in terms of a bad racial stereotype. It's the worst sort of cop
out but worthy of a spineless, under-educated, insecure man-child who thinks
his "racial stereotypes" are still relevant in 2005. If anyone else was
using the same lame cop-out for primitive thinking, you'd be calling them a
"cracker" and "irrelevant" and you'd follow them around for close to a
decade calling them "KKKlansmen" because it's the most your brain can
muster...again...bad stereotypes.

You've offered nothing beyond bad excuses to explain your ponderously
narrow-minded way of thinking.

It was a *hypothetical* post. Dude, you an Perkins calm the fuck down.
Nobody in their right mind believes either one would get the nod, but it's
great to think that a black, republican, woman, could sweep in and steal an
election away from a woman who thinks it's her "destiny" to become the
poster child for female politicians...and she would too. I think Hillary's a
MUCH more "polar" candidate than Condi is

That was the whole point of the post....exactly like Perkins said, "even if

which judging by this thread...it *is* something interesting to talk about
between now and then.

But let's not talk about it. It will only give both parties ideas.

> ...if she decides to run and Condi throws her hat into the ring. Condi Rice
> as a Presidential Candidate in 2008 would waffle stomp Hillary Clinton.
> Hilllary wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell against Rice...
>
> ...and that's why it would rule.
>
>
>

What are you basing this on?

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sTaRShInE_mOOnBeAm aT HoTmAil dOt CoM

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"Starshine Moonbeam" <silve...@tacoshells.com> wrote in message
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I just don't see them going *that* far. Black senators? Sure. Minorities
in the cabinet? Knock yourselves out.

MINORITY, WOMAN, in COMPLETE SOLE CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT AND THE
MILITARY?

Maybe in another 20 years.

-Vin

I mark *so hard* that you can't even recognize a *real* red herring.

Both of you make good points. Another guy who might run against her
would be Pataki, wondering what his chances are to win re election as
governor, how he stacks against her in polls, etc....

Guiliani, according to Ed Koch and others, probably would like a shot
at the Presidency, but there are probably tons of GOPers around the US
that are _begging_ him to run for the Senate. If the Presidency looks
like something that could be out of sight for him, he might take the
option to go for the Senate in 2006.

Either way, I wonder about what Charles Schumer thinks of all this.
When he got in the Senate, everyone said he was the big force, this
when Moynihan was still there. Since Hillary Clinton got in, it has to
be tough for him. He is still the senior senator, after all.

Also, when Hillary Clinton got into NY politics, she displaced that
Nita Lowey (sp?) to run for the Senate, and in the years since a LOT of
prominent Democrats have suffered election defeats or been sabotaged by
their own partry (Carl McCall, Andrew Cuomo) the young up and comers
are getting jobbed out for the newly arrived "established talent"
despite those NY dems having paid the dues in the organization....
There has to be some conflict inside that state party.... The Gov. and
the Mayor of NYC are both Repubs (Though Bloomberg is more liberal than
Guiliani was.) Will a Senate seat be next? Will a NY Democrat go to
another state a la Jericho? We will see....

...and there's the tapout.

I dunno...did this...

...hurt so bad that you had to snip it from your reply in the same thread?

*snicker*

> >subject. More recently, I had to live in two of the reddest red states
> >for six months. For someone who was taught (and teaches) that words like
> >"nigger" or "coon" are not acceptable vernacular when spoken in a hateful
> >manner, it was absolute hell. I wish it were simply "cliches" or
> >"stereotypes", but it's not. It's very real, and your denial of it is
> >disheartening.
>
>
> Coon ????????
> There aren't many posters here that live as far down South as i do and
> I haven't heard that word since the late 70's.

I'd like to have a coon skin cap.

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"Lord Hatred" <lordh...@spammelatergmail.com> wrote in message
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Um...I started the thread...who sucked who in?

lmfao...

Um, I thought my post was pretty calm ...

Well, hypothetically or not, I don't think Condi has any realistic
chance at getting the Repub. nod, largely because I think big chunks of
the Repub. base would not support a black woman. And I don't think
Hillary is going to get the Dem. nod for the reasons you say--she's too
polarizing.

OK, but can't part of that discussion be, "fun as this might be for
some to talk about (especially the Hillary-haters), it ain't gonna play
out that way"?--Joe (n.j.) [mWo, cool, calm, and collected]

First off, you did nothing of the sort. At no time have you "pointed out my
flawed logic" All you said was "Exactly the reasons that Red-State America
would never vote for her." which has about as much to do with "pointing out
my flawed logic" as you do with salad bars. Throwing out a one liner
response, then getting all whiny and crying about *me* when the stupidity of
your statements are pointed out...

Secondly, I started the thread. You responded. Your response was patently
ridiculous and mired in narrow-mindedness. I pointed that out. You got mad
and from that point on, and couldn't resist banging your drum louder and
louder and louder until you weren't even discussing the topic at hand, and
instead had singularly focused all your attention on me.

I find it fucking sad that you can't even focus on a topic long enough to
MAKE a point, much less defend one.

Dude, look at this thread. You turned it into a total thread about ME. How
fucking sad does that make you? I mean, you're not even ON the topic at hand
and haven't been so since almost FOUR HOURS ago...instead...you're focused
on ME....fucking ME. Again, how fucking sad are you? At least when Steve and
Slater, and anyone else jumps in, I can at least CARRY ON a conversation
with them, they won't completely melt down the first time their feewing are
huwt in fwont of evewyone.

This is why nobody "engages you in thoughtful discussion". Because they know
in less than three hours you'll be focused on something kookier with the
intensity of a fucking sun. They know that if, at ANY time someone says
something that might even *slightly* disagree with your warped, shallow,
narrow-minded, uneducated point of view, you'll go into a complete frenzy
and melt down, follow them around, turn it into a thread about "owning
bitches" and completely destroy any "resemblance" to "engaging discussion"
it might've resembled in the beginning. Look what you did here. Cried like a
baby when your feelings got hurt... You don't even know what *thoughtful
discussion* is. You think it's "owning" people and "bitchslapping" everyone.
This thread has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the only thing you
can be "engaged" in is kooking out completely over getting your feelings
hurt in front of everyone.

Sorry it hurt so bad dude, but you're just so fucking sad when it gets like
this.

But okay man, whatever makes chad a fat, happy little troll.

"Chad Bryant" <webm...@chadbryant.cjb.net> wrote in message
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> "Krusty" wrote:
>
>> Condi Rice
>> Minority...Woman...Young...Accomplished...well Educated...

> --

Youn underestimate the Red States - most people would overlook her educated
minority female status if they percieve that she would make the USA appear
powerful and if she actually comes out and condmemns Islam (most red staters
don't care much for Islamics).

Hillary in Red States has an image problem - men loath her because she
appears to be a militant women's libber and the red state women have little
respect for Hillary for remaining married to Bill after his (many) marital
transgressions.

However Condi would do better in Blue States than Hillary would in Red
States; despite being a Republican, a minority female would get a lot of
attention, respect and votes. Left up to the Blue States, Hillary would
probably win easily, but Condi's image would take more votes away from
Hillary than some old white guy would.

I don't see either Rice or Hillary getting the nom for 2008 - there's just
too many unseen variables between now and early 2008 when both parties pick
their nominees.

And I think if Bush wrapped her in the American Flag, and Cheney and the
Republican Party got behind her, she'd do a LOT better than you or anyone
else is thinking she'd do.

Look, what you and everyone else in this thread seem to be missing is, this
is *exactly* what the Republican party's been doing now for over ten years.
They've been slowly cutting the legs out from under the Democrats in this
area. Hillary would've been THE poster child for the Dems ten years ago. A
powerful woman, somewhat self made, strong willed, indpendent thinking,
intelligent...she'd be THE lightening rod for anyone who wanted to hold up
the ideals of the democratic party and say, "see? We're the party of the
minority. See how we give women and blacks positions of power irregardles of
their race or color or gender? See how great we are?

Now they just simply can't do it. They can't hold Hillary up like that
because the Republicans are doing a *better* job of actually *demonstrating*
that they're putting women and minorities in positions of power and
responsibility. The Democrats have basically paid lip service to it, while
the republican party has actually been DOING it. (you can argue all you want
about whether they're "token" or not, but it still doesn't change the fact
that they're THERE and working).

So what's traditionally been a Democrat lock on the topic has now turned
into one of the Republican parties stronger suits. And it's completely
robbed the Democrats of any "bragging rights" they think they had on women
and minorities.

Do I think Hillary will get the democratic nom? Lord I hope not, I hope my
party isn't that stupid. Do I think Condi even WANTS to run? No. I don't
even think she WANTS to run, she was offered the governorship of california
and walked away from it, and she's expressed an interest in working outside
of politics in sports management, so I doubt that she even cares about the
position. Do I think she'd get the nomination if she chose to run? I don't
think for a second that the Republican Party wouldn't roll out the red
carpet for her, and spend millions of dollars selling her to us. The other
thing to think about is the almighty Bush endorsement. If *he* starts
selling her to everyone, don't think for a second that those idiots will
drink that kool-aid.

So do I think Condi will be President? Fuck no. Do I think Hillary will?
Fuck no.

Do I think the Republicans are doing a better job of embracing minnority and
women voters? God damn right. Do I think Condi would waffle stomp Hillary in
ANY contest? Any day of the week. I think she's MUCH better "person" than
Hillary, and is *infinitely* more "electable" than the Lightening Rod
Formerly Known As Hillary.

Of course it won't work out that way. Look. Next time I'll try not to be so
"oblique" when trying to spurn some fun, political discussion. I wasn't
counting on narrow-minded fake degree sporting gas pumpers jumping into
threads with their "pseudo intellectualism" and turning it into another
"spank" fest. But that's what you get when you aim too low I guess...next
time I'll just come right out and say what I mean, and avoid all the
brouhaha.

"Krusty" <rspwk...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Chad Bryant" <webm...@chadbryant.cjb.net> wrote
>> "Embracing minorites" is everything that the Red-State voting bloc stands
>> against. I know you live in denial of this, but most of the Red State
>> America still wouldn't "embrace" a minority, unless it was with a rope
>> tied into a noose. They don't want "diversity", they want to be spoon-fed
>> fearmongering halfwits that favour ignorant nationalism over real foreign
>> diplomacy.

> God how I pity your intellectual superiority complex.
>

Truer words have never been spoken.

Exactly. And notice she tiptoed right up to the edge during confirmations.

Again, exactly what I was saying. If you think Hillary can get elected, then
Condi should have NO problem. She has all the positives of a Hillary
(female, powerful, strong, experienced) with none of the bad side effects
(She's a Clinton). More people would vote for a Condi in a blue state than
EVER would vote for Hillary in a Red.

Bingo.

iawtp 100%. This was basically exactly what I was saying. I think Condi's
WAY more "delectable" than people think, and choosing someone like Condi
would just *completely* cut the legs right out from under ANY democratic
female candidate. Condi would almost be like electing an incumbent to most
people.

news:cvvtq6$37f$5...@pita.alt.net...

> And for the record, I currently reside in a red state that isn't even
> close to being as socially divided as OK or GA, but it's still bad
> enough.

I left SC and travelled to several states for a few years. When I was in
Portland, OR, I mentioned to one of my co-workers that I'm part Cherokee
Indian - he then called me a 'prarie nigger'. I have never heard that
insult, and later found out that is the (one of) derogatory term used for
American Indians. If you're implying that racism and backwards thinking are
limited to Red States, then you're sadly mistaken.

> The sad part is, for most of the "red states", it's still 1963, where
> people like Fritz Hollings, Trent Lott, Robert Byrd, and Jesse Helms are
> acceptable, dignified gentlemen, instead of the hateful, unevolved,
> backwoods pieces of shit that the more intelligent areas of this country
> accurately view them as.

Times are changing. Helmes and Hollins are gone (Hollins and Strom were
embarrassments to most South Carolinians, but the process that favors
incumbants is the reason that they lasted so long in office); Lott has been
demoted and Robert Byrd is one of the high ranking democrats in the senate -
hardly a red stater.

>
> I know it makes you feel better to sit in your glass house in the south's
> semi-intellectual oasis and pretend that certain parts of this country
> have evolved, but sadly, they haven't - no matter how much you wish it
> were true.
>

I agree - a lot of places haven't evolved yet, and as long as there are
humans, there will be hatred, racism everywhere in the world, not just the
USA. Just blaming the Red States for lack of evolution is wrong - there are
just as many racist, homophobic, misogamistic people in the blue states as
in the red states. I have seen it in person, not via the lens of
Hollywood's camera.

Any Republican is going to crush Hillary. She is one of the most hated
people in America, in certain circles. The Democrats need to find somebody
less controversial. How about running a gun owning Christian Democrat from
the South, or is that too obviously a way to win the election?

Are you kidding me?
Condi is black.
No way she's gonna win.

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--- "Ever notice that at the start of a cartoon, Casper has no friends,
and by the end, he has
some. Yet, in the next cartoon, he's friendless again? Therefore, I
think Casper is a
soul-sucking-vampire-ghost."
--- Proud loser of TWO 2004 RSPW Poster Awards
--- Space (Animal) Hero #1 of the 1950's and 60's

>>>Um, no.
>>
>>Sorry, but when you can't refute anything I've said, and throw out your
>>typical klown bullshit instead, it's obvious you've lost.
>>
>>Your usual tactics when responding to me are to strike when you think you
>>have an advantage, but turn and run like a chickenshit when I refute your
>>whacky-ass tripe with facts and logical observations. Frankly, I'm
>>surprised you've hung around in this thread this long.
>
>
> You "refuted" nothing.
>
> You're wrong. You think in stereotypes and bad cliches and you use "I grew
> up there" as an (incorrect) excuse to think continue thinking backwards (I
> guess it's institutional stupidity). The analogy was correct. Simply because
> you "were born there" doesn't serve as a viable excuse to continue thinking
> of everyone in terms of a bad racial stereotype. It's the worst sort of cop
> out but worthy of a spineless, under-educated, insecure man-child who thinks
> his "racial stereotypes" are still relevant in 2005. If anyone else was
> using the same lame cop-out for primitive thinking, you'd be calling them a
> "cracker" and "irrelevant" and you'd follow them around for close to a
> decade calling them "KKKlansmen" because it's the most your brain can
> muster...again...bad stereotypes.
>
> You've offered nothing beyond bad excuses to explain your ponderously
> narrow-minded way of thinking.

Makes you wonder who the real bigot in the "CSA" is...

--
Rockboy
We've brought someone in to shut you up
It's a life's work

As someone who is to the right of our political spectrum, I just want to say
that I am glad that Howard Dean is the chairman of the DNC rather than
someone like Krusty.

I recall CMB being caught in a corruption scandal, along with making
some off the all comments. Race didn't really matter when she didn't
get re-elected. Her conduct in office did.

--

[Club Dread]
"David E. Powell" <David_Po...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1109641258.3...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

-Makes me wonder why both of them don't get over themselves for a day.

--Milhouse
not taking sides.

--
Winner - 2004 March Melee
Final Four - 2004 KORSPW
Final Four - 2005 RSPW Rumble

mWo. It's not just the coolest, it's fa lyfe, so survey says
whether you like it or don't like it, never E-e-e-ver tell
me he did *not* just SMELL what mWo 3:16 reeks of.

Look who's talking. The douche who can't go fifteen minutes without wanting
to hear the sound of his own posts.

Please, at least Chad has the balls to stand up to people he doesn't agree
with. All you do is sit around and suck.

Chad's just sending out random flying monkies and hoping no one notices that
there's a sad, fat, emotionally stunted man behind the curtain.

-Are you serious? Do you mean "the guy who posts four or five times a
day and doesn't get sucked into long, kooky no-resolution politically
oriented flamewars"? You must.

-How's this? I think you're a fucking asshole. Which has nothing to do
with your opinions on politics or anything else. I just think you're a
big fucking asshole. Go kook yourself into political flamewar oblivion,
lick your wounds and retreat to your "my money and possessions make me
better than you" existence.

I don't really give a shit if you like me or what I post or not. I don't
tender a lot of respect for the personal-attack opinions of
self-important bullying blowhards.

--Milhouse

4 more posts...all about me.

Quiet gas pumper. You've already had your ass tore up here today several
times already, don't make us rehash your past as a lying, fake degree
holding gas pumper who hasn't held a steady job for more than a month as
long as the newsgroup has known him.

And you know that shit's true too, gas pumper, no matter how many redirects
you try.

"Chad 'You're Crazy' Bryant" <ad...@chadbryant.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:d00i8n$8om$9...@pita.alt.net...

>> This post deserves to be archived in Krystyland
>> http://www.geocities.com/rspwkrusty/
>
> Deer Klownboy,
>
> When your most vocal support for your latest kookfest is coming from the
> train-monkey WCW fraud and Tommy "Used To Love Her" Beaver, it's time to
> go
> away for another four-month hiatus so people can forget how much you
> absolutely fucking suck as a contributor to this group.
>

You're going away for 4 months? GET OUT THE BEER!

> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:50:07 -0500, "Farveaux"
> <flyhighf...@aol.compost> wrote:
>
>>> Everyone in a "Red State" is a walking talking southern clichι, complete

>>i'm from one, and while they don't outwardly appear this way the dominant
>>party votes to keep this mindset the status quo...in very subtle ways.
>
> I live and work in the Southern Louisiana area from Baton Rouge,
> Lafayette, Lake Charles, to New Orleans. At times I run into the old
> school "Cajun" but rarely. You almost, 99% of the time never hear
> anyone with the "Suthern" drawl

That's because southeast LA and southwest MS are French/Cajun/German
coonass catholics, nothing like those pale, Anglo, Baptist mofos in the
rest of the south.

GregoryD

> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:15:04 -0600, GregoryD <ha...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:

>>>>> Everyone in a "Red State" is a walking talking southern cliché, complete

> I was born in 1969 in Des Moine, Iowa. Been there twice my whole life.
> 1970 moved to Illinois
> 1972 moved to Alabama
> 1975 also had a beach house in Shalamar, Fl (Fort Walton area)
> 1978 moved to Monroe, La.
> 1982 moved to Baton Rouge, La
> 1987 graduated HS, then...............
>
> Lived in Georgia, Louisiana, Florida, then back to Louisiana.
> It's been close to 20 years (Damm i'm getting old) since i've heard
> anyone speaking with the cliche'd "Suthern" drawl.

I grew up in St. Charles and St. John parishes in Louisiana.

I lived in Ruston from 93-95, and I can tell you that I felt out of place
with all the baptist rednecks who live there. They DEFINITELY have
the southern accent. Monroe is the same way, but it's a nicer city to go
and do stuff in. Can't buy beer after 9pm, can't buy it on weekends, etc,
etc. It was freaking ridiculous. One of the girlfriends I had there was
from Talullah, and I went with her to visit her parents on a few weekends,
and while they were nice and pretty well off, it was like Deliverance all
over again.

Dallas is full of people who... aren't from Dallas.... but if you go
outside of the city, you immediately run into the rednecks again. One of
the loan officers I hired was a cute chick from Georgia who was able to
suppress some of her accent until she got drunk.

I went to Tennessee for vacation one year and asked for directions and the
mofo I asked had an accent so thick that I couldn't understand him.

Louisiana is a wierd place for accents. New Orleans has one all their
own, Metairie is similar but different, St. James and St. John have a
modified version of that one, but Des Allemands has more of the
traditional coonass accent that gets worse as you go either south or west.

GregoryD

> "Tsar Andy Atkinson" <n8cha...@yahooooooo-ooo.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns960B8F4685D5Bn...@24.93.43.119...
>> This is no time for riddles, Krusty! If you know something, for the
>> love of food, out with it!
>>
>>> "Chad Bryant" <webm...@chadbryant.cjb.net> wrote
>>>> "Embracing minorites" is everything that the Red-State voting bloc
>>>> stands against. I know you live in denial of this, but most of the
>>>> Red State America still wouldn't "embrace" a minority, unless it
was
>>>> with a rope tied into a noose. They don't want "diversity", they
want
>>>> to be spoon-fed fearmongering halfwits that favour ignorant
>>>> nationalism over real foreign diplomacy.
>>>
>>> I feel sorry for you. Everyone else lives in 2005 and you're stuck
in
>>> some bad 1963 cliche and can't ever grow beyond the stereotypes and
>>> cliches that make you feel comfortably "superior".

>>> Yes, you live in a fantasy world of bad clichés. The funniest part,
is
>>> when you tell others to "grow" or "expand" or "evolve" and here you
>>> sit, comfortably stupid in a bad Porky's movie. Meanwhile Colin
Powell
>>> is Secretary of State, Condi Rice is the most powerful woman in
>>> American History, and the world just keeps on moving past you.
>>>
>>> God how I pity your intellectual superiority complex.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> And don't forget Sylvester Croom is the greatest football coach in
the
>> history of football.
>
> ROR. The resident redneck makes an appearance. This thread has it all!
>

Hey! I resemble that remark.

--
Tsar Andy Atkinson - at least I'm not in Alabama

"If they call a celebration penalty on this, I'll shoot them."
- Jack Cristil on Jerious Norwood's game-winning TD over Fl*rida

This post is rated P.A.

Card-carrying member of the B.O.B.

You're wisdom is surpassed only by your ignorance.

I can say that in my near 30 years here, I have rarely, if ever,
encountered the "absolute hell" you describe. I'm not saying it doesn't
exist because I know it does, in very few and very isolated areas.

I hate to agree with this, but a quote from a few years ago sums up this
thinking almost perfectly. In a trial against a former Klansman, the
judge said something to the effect of "this hatred will hopefully go
away when your generation passes on". I can't remember the quote word
for word, but I think that was the central message of it. (and crap, I
can't find the reference to it)

--
Tsar Andy Atkinson - it is not as other think

In all seriousness, brah, I hope you're not referring to me there,
because (i) I enjoy your posts a lot; (ii) I think basically we agree
on this subject; and (iii) I can't think of anything I did to give
offense. If I'm wrong on (iii), my apologies.--Joe (n.j.) [mWo]

Of course not. I was referring to Gas Pumper.

Thanks dog.

Of course we do. It's not that much of a stretch...

You didn't. Gas Pumper just jumped in, trying to instigate again in a sad
effort to draw attention away from his flailing. Pay no attention to the
kook behind the curtain, he has his own problems to worry about.

You're not, and don't apologize to me. Ever.

<TomHanks>
Apologizing? You're apologizing? There's no apologizing on Usenet!
</TomHanks>

On 28 Feb 2005 20:19:45 GMT, Chad Bryant
<webm...@chadbryant.cjb.net> wrote:

>"Krusty" wrote:
>
>> "Chad Bryant" <webm...@chadbryant.cjb.net> wrote

>> Really? I've watched the Space Shuttle take off, so I guess that makes
>> me more than qualified to make observations about being an Astronaut.
>
>The klown is in a fish mood - here come the heaping helpings of red
>herring.

Leader Desslok

www.geocities.com/steveinprague

Cherish your friends, respect your enemies, kill the ignorant

Jaws is from Compton? If I saw a 35-foot shark rollin up on his bling-bling packin a gat demanding my cheese I'd superfreak.

On 1 Mar 2005 01:54:44 GMT, Chad Bryant <webm...@chadbryant.cjb.net>
wrote:

>> Truer words have never been spoken.
>
>Don't you have a body to be reburying, mulletbitch?

Krusty wrote:
> ...if she decides to run and Condi throws her hat into the ring.
Condi Rice
> as a Presidential Candidate in 2008 would waffle stomp Hillary
Clinton.
> Hilllary wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell against Rice...
>
> ...and that's why it would rule.

"Chad Bryant" <webm...@chadbryant.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:d02h14$u08$3...@pita.alt.net...
>
> For me, the mindset is displayed everytime someone down there says, "The
> south will rise again".
>
> --

I can't say that I haven't heard that line in a good 10-15 years down south.
Because of the media, Columbia SC, Atlanta GA, Denver CO, Portland OR etc.
are pretty much the same. There may be (small) differences in culture and
food, but for the most part all places are simular. All place have good
people and bad people - all have rich neighborhoods and ghettos.

Even though you will deny it, people in the south want the same things that
everybody else wants - good paying jobs and a chance to better themselves.
If you look hard enough, you'll find white trash, and also trashy blacks,
If you look for it, you'll find racist and trashy people in NYC, Portland,
LA, San Fran, etc.

You just like trashing people from the south because it makes you feel
superior, when in reality it just reduces what little (if any) credibility
that you have.