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Han didn't believe in the Force?

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Patrick H.

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Mar 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/2/97
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When Luke is practicing against the remote, Han says all that stuff about
the Force being a "hokey religion" and that it doesn't exist. My
question is how *anyone* would disbelieve in the Force when only decades
ago the Clone Wars happened and the Jedi Knights still defended the Old
Republic. Wouldn't everyone know what a Jedi is and believe in the
Force? Especially if they existed for "a thousand generations." My only
explanation would be that the Emperor tried to erase all evidence that
they existed and killed the friends and family of the Jedi.

Patrick H.
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Jon Mason

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Mar 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/2/97
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Patrick H. wrote:
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> When Luke is practicing against the remote, Han says all that stuff about
> the Force being a "hokey religion" and that it doesn't exist. My
> question is how *anyone* would disbelieve in the Force when only decades
> ago the Clone Wars happened and the Jedi Knights still defended the Old
> Republic. Wouldn't everyone know what a Jedi is and believe in the
> Force? Especially if they existed for "a thousand generations."

It is my theory that Palpatine began to convince the galaxy that the force
was a load of crap, turning them against "con-men" Jedi, and helping to
exterminate them. This is why the Imperials in ANH call Vader a "sorcerer"
and are not scared of him. So noone knows of the Emperor's force ability,
and everyone thinks the force is made-up.

jed...@aol.com

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>When Luke is practicing against the remote, Han says all that stuff about
>the Force being a "hokey religion" and that it doesn't exist. My
>question is how *anyone* would disbelieve in the Force when only decades
>ago the Clone Wars happened and the Jedi Knights still defended the Old
>Republic. Wouldn't everyone know what a Jedi is and believe in the

>Force? Especially if they existed for "a thousand generations." My only
>explanation would be that the Emperor tried to erase all evidence that
>they existed and killed the friends and family of the Jedi.

Well...Luke didn't know what the Force was either. Remember when he and Ben had their little chat chez-Ben? Maybe knowledge of the Force wasn't so widespread. I wonder how long before Luke was born did the Jedicide begin. I'm guessing about 30 years before ANH, because I believe Anakin was about 25 when that all happened, since Vader was 50 in ESB (according to my ESB trading cards).
So maybe Jedi history wasn't taught in the schools. Who knows...


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JackCamden

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Mar 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM3/3/97
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>> My question is how *anyone* would disbelieve in the Force when only
decades
ago the Clone Wars happened and the Jedi Knights still defended the Old
Republic. Wouldn't everyone know what a Jedi is and believe in the
Force? Especially if they existed for "a thousand generations." My only
explanation would be that the Emperor tried to erase all evidence that
they existed and killed the friends and family of the Jedi.

Another SW problem that isn't easy to explain away -- and it's
exacerbated, of course, by the fact that the Emperor turns out to be a
Force master despite the sneers of Admiral Motti and his ilk. I think the
most believable thing is to postulate that it took centuries for the Old
Republic to rot, and the Old Republic's decline went hand in hand with a
decline in the Jedi. A logical explanation would be that as the Jedi
became rarer and less revered, being a Jedi Knight became an honorary
title in many systems, given out to people who knew nothing of the Force
-- much as England's knights now include the likes of Paul McCartney and,
um, Alec Guinness. If this situation got so bad that "Jedi knighthoods"
were purchased openly in an increasingly corrupt Republic, it would make
sense that many people either have never heard of the Force or regard it
as "that ancient religion" or "a lot of simple tricks and nonsense." And
it would be easier for the likes of Vader and the Emperor to hunt down and
exterminate the few remaining true Jedi.

Jack

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