CD-Copy

>"alienboy231" <alien...@home.com> wrote
>> Oh god, well you sorry sons of bitches are absolutely useless.
>
> No, we just don't indulge in stealing in the real world as much as some
>other people.
>
> Ha-Harrrr, matey.
>
>
> TAST Spice
>

There is also the possibility that he wants to protect his purchased
copy by making a back up. I doubt that if something happens to his cd,
the software shop will gladly replace it.

Yes. You go down to the store and buy a second copy.

No, we just don't indulge in stealing in the real world as much as some

NO NO NO!!! How many times do we have to post this?? It's NOT lighter fluid,
its Gasoline!! Lighter fluid will ruin your CD - too much alkaline.

You need to soak it in gasoline with an octane of 89 or higher for 3.5 minutes,
THEN place it on the 2nd CD tray, light it, and close the door.

Try to keep up, duck.

Warren

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"Warren" <war...@onlineoptions.net> wrote in message
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Hey, that's what I am here for. Of course lighter fluid works great for getting
all the dustbunnies out of your keyboard. Just spay that puppy down real good,
wait about 2 minutes and fire it up. The dustbunnies soak the lighter fluid up
and burn off while leaving your keyboard clean and shiny - with a nice minty
smell too!

Your Buddy,
alienboy213

Not only are you eloquent, you are an educated man, alienboy. Chow is a
dog, buddy. Probably the reason most people doubt your intentions on using
this copy (founded or unfounded), is that piracy is getting pretty
widespread as you probably know. I've bought probably hundreds of games on
CD and never had one fail or needed a backup of one. I've never even heard
of anyone having a game fail on them in all the years I've been playing
computer games. So you can see our skepticism when you come asking for a
copy, especially when you say you have multiple programs for the exclusive
purpose of duping CD's (original post). Just remember everytime you dupe a
game to save yourself a few bucks you take some money out of the pool for
development of cutting-edge games for the future. You might not think one
person matters, or you might not even give a shit, but it adds up brother.
Have fun with your "backup"

Ciao,

duck

Rugby 2001 (PC) EA Sports ***THIS GAME RULES!! If only Americans would give
rugby a chance. But of course you people have to watch basketball and
baseball, leaving me with the freakin European league on Fox Sports World
and the rare Ausie Rules league which is way better.
NFL2k1 (Dreamcast) Sega Sports ***How god damn this game is good if only
Dreamcast were to have a Rugby game made by Visual Concepts)
Diablo 2 (PC) Blizzard ***I now have no life or at least Im not living it
anymore I am now a Necromancer and my name is Creon
UFC (Dreamcast) Crave ***Best fighting game ever PERIOD.
Rush 2049 Midway/Atari ***Gran Turismo can suck my left nut sims suck arcade
racers rule.

Also you must be very good with your CDs not having any of them scratch and
not work because of that scratch. I on the other hand have problems with
this you see there is always a 2 year old gremlin running around my house
grabbing anything and everything that looks shiny or pretty and while I do
my best to keep her away from my computer she still manages to get to it
some of the time. Also there is a 6 year old child who likes to play my
games he seems to have problems putting them back in their cases and somehow
finds a way to scratch them. So I guess backing up my CDs is a bad idea
for my case. You people always assume the negative or the worse hell, if I
were to tell you there was a 3% chance of lightning to strike you on a rainy
day you all would probably take shelter in your god damn cellar.

Jez
"Bolt cutters on stand-by"

alienboy231 wrote in message ...

why not using a buldozer to drive allover your computer with the cd inserted

"we are ManOwaR we are invinceble"
"death to false metal"
Warren <war...@onlineoptions.net> schreef in berichtnieuws

i have one game that fails installing just because of one scratch on the cd

duckhater <rove...@pacbell.net> schreef in berichtnieuws
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Oh puhleaze - I enjoyed Tie Fighter too - does that make me an advocate of
big government?

Hardly. Running to the cellar every time it rains would be unproductive.

On the other hand, we lose absolutely nothing by pissing you off.

On the contrary - many people who speak out against piracy are precisely
those who are useful; useful enough that someone's willing to part with
their hard-earned dollars for the privilege of using the software they
create.

They're not useless; they just don't feel like expending energy to make
_your_ life easier.

Zach wrote:

> One thing about Star Wars - given the information only in the movies - what
> did the Empire do wrong? You never actually saw them do anything evil, you
> just heard them talk about the Dark Side. The only big thing that Darth and
> friends did was blow up a rebel military base, which you really can't hold
> against them. Just why were the Rebels rebelling?

First of all, to correct your earlier post, CD-Copying IS illegal. In any
form. Check a law book for more details, but the gist of it is that you can
only copy the files to a hard drive from the CD without permission from the
manufacturer.

Secondly, if there was a 3% chance of lighting to strike me on a rainy day,
that would mean that I have a one in 33 chance of death. Hell, that's a
good chance, not something I'd want to trifle with. How often do you go out
in the rain? 10, maybe 20 times a year. If there were a 3% chance of
dying, I'd probably live less than 2 years. (Yes, I know my math isn't
perfect, I don't feel like working out the exact probabilty) Considering
the chances of actually dying of a lighting strike are something closer to
100 million to one, though, it's really not that much of a risk.

Zach wrote:First of all, to correct your earlier post, CD-Copying IS illegal.

Their disposition of Alderaan was certainly lacking in due process, wouldn't
you say?

Also, aboard the Executor, their method of employee discipline would
probably violate a few labor regulations here on Earth.

I agree. Bob Knight is a saint when you compare him to Vader. I mean, the
dark lord choked way more people - with out touching them, even.

You are not serious are you??? How about genocide(blowing up Alderran) and
torture(Han, Leia, and Chewbacca) for starters.

Scott Aguirre
slag...@earthlink.net

All criminals try to justify it to themselves by pretending everyone is as
bad as them. Not everybody is. And note that there are legal ways to copy
music onto tape.

Killing rebels. An act of war. And torture really depends on how you look
at it - it could save lives.

Depends on the individual copyright agreement, I can't find one for thief or
thief 2 but I've got the manual for Jedi Knight here and it superficially
says that you can create *one* copy for backup purposes only.

Hold on just found the licence agreement on the thief2 CD, and yep, you're
right, it says : "you will not make any further copies in any way
whatsoever" either way, I take a somewhat unstringent view to copyright
laws, it's also illegal to lend out your games, or keep things taped of the
TV for longer than X amount of time. I wouldn't refrain from making a
personal backup if I felt the need. And in the case of Origin (just to get
off the point) I'll happily copy any of there games, basically because I
paid out good money for Ultima 9 and have now been inform that the latest
version id bug free and no further patches will be released. That's a
blatant lie even on the UK release.

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Scott Aguirre wrote in message <39ce9454...@news.earthlink.net>...

>Scott Aguirre
>slag...@earthlink.net

So you are saying that people who make mixed tapes are criminals?

>Not everybody is.
You're right. But not everybody who responded negatively to the original
poster is without guilt
when it comes to some type of illegal (but unenforced) copying of various forms
of media: VCR,
audio tapes etc., and I'm willing to bet at least some of these hypocrites have
participated in some of
the more riskier activites such as downloading mp3s of commercial music, and
then perhaps burning
the music to a cd.

I'm not calling everyone hypocrites, but I believe there are a few that speak
out against software piracy, yet
are guilty of the same crime under different circumstances. I'm in NO WAY
condoning software piracy either.

So, a more reasonable analogy would be making CD copies of commercial
records. I've never done that, won't allow it to be done using my burner,
and generally explain to people who do it that it is wrong.

-Kevin

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Morgan

My new favorite line from LEXX: "Bitch-slap her, Xev!"

What legally? Palpatine disbanded the Republic Senate and declared himself
Emporer. Is that a legally established government. As part of his
coup(spelling?) he had the Jedi Knights hunted down and killed.
Scott Aguirre
slag...@earthlink.net

Whether our country does it or not, torture is WRONG. Remember also that Vader's
torture of Leia, Han, and Chewie was NOT to gain any critical info that would
save lives("Thet never even asked me any questions!"). It was all part of a plot
to lure someone else there to be kidnapped(but I guess if torture is OK, then
kidnapping is not so bad<friendly sarcasm>).

Scott Aguirre
slag...@earthlink.net

"given the information only in the movies" was one of the the premisses
of this 'debate', and I ceratainly don't remember any of that! Or maybe
I wasn't paying attention during them... :-)

Attentive Spice

But we didn't know that from watching the movies.

Really depends on the perspective. Which would you prefer - someone to
suffer for a relatively short time, or someone to be dead? If you torture
them, they get kind of beat up and unhappy. If you kill them, they're gone.
If the Empire considered Luke an enemy, it was acceptable, albeit a little
unneeded. The thing is, Luke conceivably could have killed a lot of
innocent people.

Speaking of killing innocent people, what about blowing up the Death Star?
Yes, there were soldiers, but if their military is anything like ours, it
was filled with civilian employees. And the second Death Star was filled
with construction crews. Even excluding the fact that most of the Storm
Troopers had families and kids, there were probably thousands of innocent
civilians on board who had no idea what was going on. Yes, wars kill
people, but you'd think they could have come up with a better way than
nuking the entire station.

Zach wrote in message <8qt3ia$cv4$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>...

Zach wrote in message <8qt3pv$e13$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>...

Sorry to say that you were not paying attention. :-) In the first movie(Episode
IV), Grand Moff Tarkin comes in and interrupts the meeting of the other Moffs.
Vader is following him in. He says something to the effect that the Senate will
no longer be a problem because Palpatine has disbanded the Senate, thereby
"wiping away the last remnants of the Old Republic." Something like that. Sorry
I can't quote verbatim. Also, Obi-Wan tells Luke that Vader helped the Emporer
hunt down and kill the Jedi Knights. Believe me, before I sent that post, I sat
and thought awhile to make sure what I was saying was in the movies. :-)

Scott Aguirre
slag...@earthlink.net

Yes we did. See my other post. :-)

Scott Aguirre
slag...@earthlink.net

>books, as good as they are :¬)

Hey, I have only read one of the books, "DarkSaber" because I like to stick to
canon. :-)

Scott Aguirre
slag...@earthlink.net

However, for all we know, he had the legal power to do this. We can certain
agree the Empire wasn't a democracy but that doesn't mean it's not legally
established either. Going by the information in the movies, we have no
evidence yet that Palpatine wasn't legally elected to power (though he
certainly used some questionable means to gain a platform.)

But we only have Obi-Wan's word about the Jedicide. And we know how
trustworthy *that* is!