Hey, remember that FF6 translation of Sky Render's?

On behalf of AGFF, I'd like to congratulate Sky Render and the folks
at RPGOne for wasting several years of their lives translating a game
that didn't need to be translated. Good job, guys!

Rob
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"If I was rich I'd hire you to be my personal translater so that I
could talk to the average person without annoying or confusing them."
--run_the_shadows (Livejournal) referring to me

"Let me make something clear to all you anime otaku kawaii ^_^ sons of
bitches. WATCHING ANIME IN JAPANESE DOES NOT HELP YOU LEARN JAPANESE.
It's a myth created by lazy Japanese language students so they can
sit around watching MORASU TAKESHATITI's latest crapfest under the
guise that they are learning."
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W00t.

MTE.

Dan.

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They COULD be making hilarious hacks.
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punctuate because this is how it sounds in my head

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Fucking RPG dorks

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w00t?

Adam

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Hurf?

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Lame.

Hey, remember Frioniel?

- Avenger

"Narrative Gaming"

LOL

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I certainly see your point, but I thought it was a cool idea.

-Poe

Very, very arguably.

- Steve

I mean, come on. Maybe I could let you get away with saying that it's
the best FF (even that's iffy), but best RPG in general? Either you
haven't played many RPGs or you have extremely poor taste.

BTW, FFT's translation was bafflingly poor. FF6's was quite good
considering the restrictions that Woosley worked under. The
retranslation wasn't needed at all, and cleared up a few minor points
at best. Prove me wrong by giving a few examples of major changes
made to the script.

Rob
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so he went to Tiananmen Square and gave them all candy. Except
instead of candy he killed them."
--Peter Nguyen, "Biography: Walt Whitman"

Pfft, the bulk of the changes were to character, item, monster, and spell names.
BIG DIFFERENCE ON THE GAME ITSELF D00D.

- Avenger

Except he's right.

Adam

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It's a video game you fucking ass-twat. How the Christ can a video game
be "sorely needed"?

THE CHARACTERS SAID 'RUN FOR COVER" INSTEAD OF A MORE ACCURATE "RUN FOR
SHELTER"!!!!!!

Or some other nuisance re: poor translation.
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You can't light a snowball on fire dood.

Since im not aware of any major differences between the translated
version and American version. What exactly would have made it any
better then it already was?

The only thing i know of that would make that game better is skipping
that damn Opera scene and not fighting that squid 13 times.

How about making the magic system less shite? That Esper wank was
totally gay, and the "Learning abilities from clothing" style of
development is, well, fucking retarded.

Dear Square, please make a game with a refined Junction system, thank
you. And don't have a male protagonist who is a) a whiny bitch, b) an
obnoxious dickweed or c) both of those. Also, a traitorous usable
character. Hmm. That could be cool. And more deaths.

Also, no shitty J-pop, no Blitzball, no Tetra Master, no
super-deformity, no stupid spirit-of-the-planet bullshit, no lack of
world map, no furries, and an explode-in-presence-of-cosplayer feature
built into the game disc. Okay, get to work.

So appearantly you hate the whole FF game series.

Yeah, the same way I hate humanity because some humans form flawed
inferences.

Cait Sith wasn't enough for you?

Rob
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"Walt Whitman believed that the only good Chinaman was a dead Chinaman,

I loved Cait Sith's noble self-sacrifice/death scene. In an instant that
moment set the case for video games as a legitimate storytelling medium
back to the 80's.

Particularly when, about 30 seconds later, it was all undermined.

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"I may be a total idiot, but I'm not stupid."
-- Morph, Exiles #11

Turns out I never got that far into VII. If I ever see the game cheap
somewhere [unlikely] I'll pick it up, but otherwise, meh.

It is a Greatest Hits title, so I've seen it around for as little as $20
Canadian. The cheap part should be easy, if you can find a place with one
in stock.

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"The belief in a single truth is the root cause of all evil in the
world."

-- Max Born

Yeah, I know. It's unlikely that I'll find it, not that it'd be cheap if
I did. I've been looking for about two years now. It doesn't seem to be
available for sale here any more [and retailers have been phasing out
PSX games for a couple of years now -- hardly any older titles
available, except for budget kids' games].

Are you limited to PAL format? If not, I could probably find a copy here in
the states and send it to you.

Ryan

Yeah, I am. Thanks, though.

And at the cost of dubious fanboyisms (Cyan/Cayenne) and some very clumsy phrasing - I
think I got as far as 'That magic-based-armour-riding witch' before I gave
up.

Anyway, the comedy mistranslated monster names are the best thing about the
FF games: Catcherpillar, Marlboro. Also things like Shiva (which I assume
is some kind of misspelling of Shiver).

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I'm fairly certain that Shiva is the correct spelling of Shiva, the
Hindu god.

I hear Sky Render has Asperger's.

Incidentally, he's re-re-translating the first part of the game due to
the problems you described.

Literal translation; he is named after the pepper.

Been changed since the original patch.

Shiva is named for the Hindu god of the same name.
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> And at the cost of dubious fanboyisms (Cyan/Cayenne)[SNIP]

This is the #1 reason I hate the fanslation.

I agree. Isn't that where Cactrot came from? Cactrot was a hilarious name.

- Avenger

Too bad the Final Fantasy female godess of ice has nothing to do with the Hindu
male god of death...

- Avenger

Except that FF's Shiva may not actually be female... I remember reading
once that the Hindu god Shiva was a notorious cross-dresser.

Well, not so much that--I think the Hindu gods could appear naturally in the
form of either sex.

- Avenger

FF6 was one of the most uneven games in the series. The lack of a main
character was a good idea, the one or two defining character traits of the
human characters and the abundance of walking gimmicks was not. The split
between the Balance and Ruin was a good idea, the way the 'nonlinearity' in
Ruin was implemented, letting you basically pick the order in which you
complete basic, unfulfilling 'character quests' rather than giving any real
freedom was not. The Esper system was the first taste of the more free-range
customization of FF7 or 8, but the ultra-powerful innate skills of people
like Edgar, Gogo, Sabin, or Shadow pretty much eliminated the point of
letting you pick your favorites. Why use someone who doesn't have access to
the most powerful attacks, and never will? And then all the ultra-damage
combinations of relics and weapons nullified that for any of the later-game
challenges anyway, the same thing that FF7, 8, and 10 get accused of doing,
only those have better plots and battle systems.

So is there an actual text copy of the new script floating around or would I
have to play the patched rom to see the 'changes'? I kinda want to check it
out for myself.

Better still would be a list of examples why the project was justified like
Rob was asking for, but I wouldn't hold my breath for this.

-Homyguy Z

I'd like to see that myself. I've heard of a "crack" attack

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You are right about some stuff and wrong about some other stuff. I can't
be bothered to point out which, though.

Yes

No

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I agree 100% with silvergun.

Ryan

Then you're 50% wrong, obviously.

Rob
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"'Hey, you know how you told interviewers that Final Fantasy VII
contained the meaning of life? I'm just wondering, is that part
of the game hidden because I never found it. Also is the fun part
of the game hidden because I never found that either.'
The next thing I remember I was laying on the floor with Hironobu
Sakaguchi standing over me saying 'Looks like he had an allergic
reaction ...to my fist!'
--Jed Kirchner, Something Awful June 17

What if it was a glass?

I am SO unsubscribing from this newsgroup the moment I get a life.

You're in for a wait.

Yeah, I know.

You could be right, but not about what your getting at.

Ryan

Ouch.

Where did everyone in this group go anyway? I'm not sure I've ever seen it
so barren.

Balthasar
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other is to get it.
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"To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme
excellence consists in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting."
--Sun Tzu, The Art of War

I know. I guess FFXI scared everyone away.

Ryan