Why Yelp Works

UPDATE| 1:30 PM May 13 In response to some comments, Jeremy Stoppelman, Yelp’s chief executive, wrote to clarify that Yelp has paid people to write some of the reviews in cities it is entering. His e-mail on this and a few other matters, is in the comments here. The post has been edited to reflect his comments.

When Yelp began in early 2005, I yawned. Who needs another site where people review restaurants and other local businesses? It’s one of the oldest ideas on the Internet. Citysearch, the leader, continues to struggle to find a sustainable business model more than a decade after its founding. Start-ups like Insider Pages come and go. Big companies, from search engines to yellow-pages publishers, have long added user reviews to their local listings.

But Yelp has thrived. In March, it had 3.3 million users, according to Comscore, up 87 percent from a year ago. Citysearch still towers above it with 16.2 million users.

What Yelp did differently than these others, as Jeremy Stoppelman, the site’s co-founder and chief executive describes it, was to spend most of its energy attracting a small group of fanatic reviewers. It didn’t try to pay for reviews, as some sites have. It didn’t subordinate the users’ contributions to professional reviews, as on Citysearch, or to directory information, as on yellow-pages sites.

Instead, it structured the site to motivate people through the praise and attention that their reviews receive from others. “Yelp is about the reviewing experience,” Mr. Stoppelman said. “It is like a blog with a little bit of structure.”

Most people aren’t drawn to write a witty review of the scrambled eggs at the local diner simply to get their ego stroked. But enough people find it rewarding to turn Yelp into one of the richest repositories of local reviews on the Web.

Now a much broader audience is discovering how useful the site can be, and some visitors are adding their own contributions as well. Yelp understood that, as with Wikipedia, a small group of people can create something that the rest of us can take advantage of.

Reviewers also benefit because they can see how other users vote on their reviews. Moreover, the site mimics the structure of a social network, so that active members can see information about and follow the work of other reviewers who interest them. Yelp has also started holding social events for its frequent reviewers.

“People come to write reviews as a hobby and also to meet other people,” Mr. Stoppelman said.

This playbook isn’t new. Epinions, a product review site, built a similar community (see this interesting Wired piece from 2000) until it was dissolved into Shopping.com, now part of eBay.

One reason for Yelp’s success is that it focused on San Francisco in its first year. The new generation of Web workers took Yelp to be their entertainment bible, and that helped generate enough critical mass that others joined in. Now the Bay Area represents only about 30 percent of Yelp activity, Mr. Stoppelman said. Los Angeles is second, followed by Chicago and New York.

The site is also popular, Mr. Stoppelman said, because Yelp has been slow to add advertising, and there still isn’t that much of it. There are no only a few banner ads. Instead, Yelp uses some relatively subtle advertising formats: Businesses can pay to have their companies listed first on search pages (identified as a sponsored listing). And they can pay to add photos and a little other information to the page about their business. But revenue from these sources isn’t enough to make Yelp profitable, Mr. Stoppelman said.

Responding to criticism from business owners that some user reviews are unfair, Yelp also recently introduced a way for the business owner to send a message back to a reviewer. If the reviewer doesn’t choose to write back, the business owner can’t send a second message.

But Mr. Stoppelman said that the site deliberately tilts its rules to support the reviewers. “We put the community first, the consumer second and businesses third,” he said.

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It didn’t try to pay for reviews, as some sites have.

I know several people who got paid to write reviews for yelp when they started trying to increase their presence in Portland.

You hit the nail on the head Saul, motivation. Yelp has built a lot of powerful feedback loops that reward participation and the right kind of participation. I wrote about yelp and why I thought it worked when I first discovered it on a visit to San Francisco two years ago:
//experiencecurve.com/archives/why-social-media-kills-the-competition-yelpcom-case

Here’s where I think they succeeded:
– Reward the people for doing good work
– Help people share their good work through widgets and other embedable code (widget marketing or picture in picture marketing)
– Trust should be built in and grow systematically
– Be passionate, be involved, be part of the community
– It’s about the people not the technology or the product
– Sell out selectively and meaningfully

One of Yelp’s key differentiators is its ability to attract a community of witty, expressive, food and entertainment enthusiasts. Yelp would alienate this core audience if it were build a “sustainable business model” with a slew of banner ads and sponsored content that ironically was a contributor to their predecessors’ downfall.

“But revenue from these sources isn’t enough to make Yelp profitable”

So are they profitable at all?

I have spoken to people who have been paid by Yelp to contribute reviews when they first launch in a new city. They continue to do so albeit on a smaller scale when that city has been established.

Yelp does need to figure out a sustainable business model, just not one that will alienate it’s core audience/contributors. I’m very interested in seeing where Yelp will be in a year – in the meantime, gotta Yelp my lunch now!

menupages.com is the way to go for restaurants in nyc. breaks manhattan down by neighborhood and type/ethnicity of food you are looking for. gives you the full menu, prices and reviews.

People who contribute to yelp must love it. There are people with hundreds of reviews! Yawn. I’m so, yawn, happy for them that they like to, yawn, play food critic.

Rob L; N Myrtle Beach, SC May 12, 2008 · 7:58 pm

@dan s in #8: think about getting more sleep. I just read today that those who are sleep-deprived are much more likely to sleepwalk.

The next thing you know you will find yourself at your computer in the middle of the night writing your first restaurant review for Yelp while you wolf down White Castle burgers, all while still sleeping.

I like Yelp! but I find the interface very off-putting.
While I sometimes go there to look for an option when I’m travelling the experience doesn’t make me want to come back and share my thoughts on what I’ve found unless the place is incredibly good, or incredibly bad.
When it comes to using it in the most logical form – on a mobile device – it’s really difficult.
It could be so good but, like Wikipedia, it fails to engage apart from the passionate few who contribute a huge percentage of the content – so if your tastes don’t match it’s no help ;)

@dan s #8: Yelp members seem to, for whatever reasons. I use Yelp as a structured way of sharing my experiences (not necessarily critiquing food) so folks get one perspective on a business they might not have run across. It’s easier to refer friends to the site instead of having to verbally (or via e-mail) repeat a dining experience. But hey, to each his own.

Does Yelp or any other restaurant review guide have a service that allows you to use GPS on a mobile phone? So if I am in some random neighborhood in a random city and want to find somewhere to eat, the best closest options will be displayed?

Getting less esoteric, can Yelp be used on a mobile device at all?

i’m sure all the goodness & light helped, however i’d say Yelp works now because they spent more time on their SEO, and people started seeing those links come up in the top 3 results when they search on Google.

initially, their SEO was rather weak. kudos to Jeremy & Russ for figuring that piece out in the past few years, along with the community evangelism and/or other efforts that resulted in critical mass of reviews (at least in selected metros).

great startups may occasionally happen overnight, but i’m a lot more impressed by those that work hard at it & finally achieve success after repeated attempts & school of hard knocks.

– dmc

A mate of mine up in Washington D.C. suggested that I might like to join the Atlantarr Yelp! so I gave her a lookover and eventually decided to join up and participate. I can see where the site might be off-putting to lubbers what don’t likes to write, but for those of us what be cursed with a constant need to communicate, the idea be patented genius. And, even if you aren’t a writer, the site be a grand tool to gauge the quality of a place (be it a restaurant or a dentist) by the variety of opines left by the scurvy raft of Yelpers what be kind enough to log them to the website thingy. Those what be paid by a business to scribe favorable reviews can be outweighed by the heavy, heavy anchor of reviews by everyday Yelpers.

The unchronicled thing about the Yelp! is sex.

The site’s compliments system allows Yelpers to send little notes back and forth. These notest be called “compliments” and any good pirate knows a compliment is all but a flirt wrapped up in a pretty bow. If I had the time to attend an official Yelp! event ’tis certain I’d be mobbed by a press of impassioned Yelp wenches!

Yarr.

-Posted by Captain Drew, inventor of the rPhone™

Yelp most definitely paid for reviews.

Yelp was outed over two years ago by business week for paying a whole cadre of people to write reviews. This was, and is, never disclosed to other users. Many people happily befriend people who are paid to be friends. Those Yelpers with hundreds of reviews? I’ll guarantee you that 95% of them are paid. You really should follow up on this point as to cloak themselves in the user generated content is a myth.

You should have done your homework on Yelp!

There are numerous cases where Yelp has compensated reviews to add content. Also, if you do any research on these so-called reviews on Yelp for other cities, you’ll see that a majority of those reviews are done by people that don’t even live there.

Maybe that’s what Yelp needed $30million for, because I don’t know what else they’re spending it on!

Yelp pays “scouts” to write early reviews to drum up interest in a new region. This only lasts for a little while, then there is a community manager who helps bring up membership by throwing events.

Dan S., go back to playing video games.

I thought we all learned the lessons of the late 90’s dotcom era…if you hype it, they will come. Seriously folks, Yelp has spent a tremendous amount of money to build the hype, yet they have really only scratched the surface.

The problem is twofold. One – a site like Yelp attracts exhibitionists and gamers (trying to win ‘elite Yelp status’), but has yet to be accepted as a true, reliable source of information for the ‘regular Joe’. Their incentives for collecting UGC only works for a small percentage of the population, and I usually dont rely on ‘that’ percentage for finding a trustworthy dentist.

Two, they have no real revenue model – one that will not alienate or offend its users yet will still be attractive enough to sell. Seems like they are about to run into the FAcebook dilemma of how to monetize those eyeballs – something that they will need to tread very, very carefully.

If they cannot prove valuable to the ‘regular Joes’, they will never do more than scratch the surface. And if they cannot monetize those eyeballs without offending their current user base, I would bet that someone else will come along and eat their lunch soon.

so, i got this interesting bit of information from someone who worked for yelp:
yelp is very agresssive in selling ads, the so called “sponsored results” to businesses which are being reviewed on yelp.
when a business signs up for “sponsored results” (several k$), bad reviews then will be hidden. that means anytime the business stops taking out those ads, the bad reviews which remained hidden during the “sponsored results” run, pop up again.

as a result, yelp is not at all a neutral review site. that entire idea is skewed!
yelp can be helpful, but take it with a grain of salt or two. and be suspicious of “sponsored results”….

Jeremy Stoppelman May 13, 2008 · 1:35 pm

Hi Saul,

We don’t pay for reviews directly anywhere anymore. There was a time in our earlier days where we experimented with paying for reviews directly in cities outside of San Francisco to help get the ball rolling in our otherwise empty site. Competitors (InsiderPages and Judysbook) were doing it nationwide (offering $5 Starbucks or gas cards) so we thought we’d emulate in specific cities to see what would happened, the result? Relatively low quality participation from people that didn’t care all that much about Yelp. We’ve since adapted the “city jump start” program and you can see the new job description publicly displayed on our site here:

//www.yelp.com/jobs#scouts

To be clear: in any of the 16 cities where we have community managers (and therefore any semblance of a real vibrant community), we do not pay for reviews. Community managers in active communities are encouraged to review since they are model citizens, but that’s not the point of their job and it’s a micro-drop in the bucket from a review count standpoint.

Sorry for any confusion, we didn’t receive a fact check note before you posted and I thought it was a minor omission.

Other minor factual errors include:

Traffic, we have far more than 3.3M users and we have the Google Analytics data to back that up (happy to send you whatever data you need). Most sampling services paints a very different picture than Comscore such as Google Trends: //www.google.com/trends?q=yelp%2C+citysearch

Epinions had a paid model for reviewing.

The 30% number you quoted as fact was actually my best estimate in the moment (probably not far off, but I’d have to dig up some data to guarantee it’s accuracy).

You said we have no banner ads. That’s not true. While we do have minimal “brand” advertising (as I refer to it) and core is most definitely local ads for small businesses, we do occasionally show regular ad units on the site.

Yelp worked in the beginning, not so much anymore. When a restaurant has 200+ reviews it becomes too diluted. Additionally, take a quick look around, almost EVERY place reviewed has 4-5 stars…really, how can this be?

Jeremy Stoppelman May 13, 2008 · 2:27 pm

Regarding the comments by bmwcafe about suppressing negative reviews by advertisers:

It’s ridiculous (obviously). Yes we allow a sponsor to peg one review to the top of their page, but reviews positive or negative are otherwise unaffected by joining our sponsorship program.

I not kidding around when I say: community first, readers second, businesses third. If we removed a legit review for money “the bloom would be off the rose” so to speak and we would very quickly lose all credibility with our community.

In reply to #22 Jeff:

Agreed, 200+ reviews are pointless. Also there should be a cut-off in terms of history (at least when calculating the score). Just because a place rocked 2 years ago doesn’t mean it’s still good. Actually displaying a graph of the score over time might be interesting.

I think OpenSocial (or a similar concept) has the potential to make the reviews more relevant. Imagine seeing 2 reviews from your friends rather than 200 from random people. Which opinion do you trust more? This is even more powerful with clubs were the music style, crowd and vibe play a key role.

Yelp allows people to “review” anonymously and tehn refuses to allow businesses any recourse when people slander them. They also suppress negative reviews when seeking advertising.

A business I was managing in 2007 was contacted by Yelp for advertising. I thought this was curious, since they were a review site. When I looked later that day at our Yelp reviews, two negatives had been scrubbed, probably before the advertising sales call.

shady. shady. shady.