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. The continuity section needs a great deal of work-- grammar, style, punctuation. I did a bit tonight to try to improve upon it.74.89.73.130 (talk) 02:16, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Brigadier's Death[edit]

"Soon after this story, he is moved to a nursing home and dies within months.[4]" There is nothing in The Wedding of River Song to indicate when the Brigadier's death takes place. It could therefore be a significant amount of time after the events of this story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.32.88.135 (talk) 17:26, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jones tradition[edit]

"Jo's married name continues Davie's tradition of introducing characters with the surname Smith or Jones. Previous examples include Ianto Jones, Martha Jones and Mickey Smith" The problem with this statement is that Russell T Davies did not come up with the Cliff Jones character. Therefore Jo's married name was simply a coincidence. The Shadow Treasurer (talk) 03:43, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh man, did someone actually include that? Honestly. 212.20.248.35 (talk) 07:47, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Huge plot hole[edit]

There's a huge plot hole in this episode. In "The Eleventh Hour", the TARDIS got remodeled. It has a new lock, and a new key. We saw it when he gave Amy a key, it's nothing like the one Sarah Jane and Jo remember. Had the Shansheeth successfully created the key from their memories, it would have been useless. Any suitable sources talking about this mistake? -- AvatarMN (talk) 02:32, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

even if there was a source discussing it, it hardly counts as a huge plot hole, at most its a continuity mention, and an important one. GraemeLeggett (talk) 10:55, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The whole point of the episode is that if these guys can make the key that Sarah Jane and Jo remember, they'll be able to get in the TARDIS. Stopping them from making the key is what it's all about, and it would in fact not matter if they did make the key. They wouldn't have gotten into the TARDIS. I think that qualifies as huge. If the climax had gone the other way... nothing would have happened. That's big, in plot terms. -- AvatarMN (talk) 02:26, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You know...villains aren't perfect. They can make the odd boneheaded mistake. If NASA can crash a Mars probe, then the Shansheeth can try and use the wrong key. Not much of a plot hole...the villains would probably go to their backup plan or some such. DonQuixote (talk) 04:29, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Much more significant to me is that the RTD made this mistake. Or the Doctor made this mistake. Thinking the villains' plan could work when it could not. It occurred to me immediately that the Shansheeth's plan offered no threat for this reason, but he did his best to stop them anyway. And it's his life, and he's a genius. -- AvatarMN (talk) 18:53, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At the risk of going into WP:FORUM, the Doctor liked his old key and changed it just after Amy's wedding...or something similar. Not much of a plot hole since the "hole" deals with events outside the episode, so it'll only be nerdy to include it. DonQuixote (talk) 21:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Jo Grant[edit]

Anyone else feel this may be setting up for spin off for Jo Grant (Jones) series? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianmccollum (talk • contribs) 06:45, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe but WP:FORUM. Hektor (talk) 10:06, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

507 "joke"[edit]

I'm not sure the cited reference supports the claim in the article that "Davies subsequently explained that the line was a joke". I don't get that from reading the citation at all. Davies implies he was laughing when he wrote the line; he also says he doesn't expect it to "stick" because the thirteen lives bit is far too engrained in people's brains. But I don't see him claim that the line was simply a joke, or that the Doctor was joking with Clyde, or similar? Only that he doesn't think people will adopt the figure. Marwood (talk) 12:10, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Continuity[edit]

How can this be considered a children's show when it directly refers to actual episodes from the early 70s? As if children today actually saw these? Nemmex (talk) 06:46, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]