Science
The Deadly Aftermath of a Rocket Explosion Seconds After Launch
Posted by Jesus Diaz at 10:30 PM on September 2, 2008
While space travel is safe for the most part, sometimes things go really wrong. Like last week's NASA's rocket explosion on the Wallops Island, where an ATK Launch Vehicle X-1 exploded only seconds after liftoff, with hazardous debris falling on land and sea. We are used to seeing the fireworks in the air, but what happens when that flaming debris hits the ground is much more spectacular and scary, as you can see in this video.
The rocket in the video is a Delta II launched by the USAF in 1997 to carry a 45 million dollar GPS Block IIR satellite to orbit. For sure, this Delta II variant is a much more powerful rocket than the 53-foot ATK Launch Vehicle X-1: At 127 feet, the Delta II 7925 is a 7000-Series (7) with nine boosters (9) and three stages--the second one a restartable Aerojet AJ10 engine (2) and the third one a payload assist module (encoded as 5 in the model number).
The first stage alone holds 10,000 gallons of fuel, so the mayhem that ensues after only 13 seconds of flight looks like a Jerry Bruckheimer wet dream. One that doesn't involve Bruce Willis. [IT Wire and Dark Roasted Blend, research Wikipedia and NASA]
Comments (AU Comments · US Comments)
Sutter
Posted September 3, 2008 9:35 AM
"The Deadly Aftermath..."
I think you need to check what "deadly" means. No-one was injured in the explosion at all, let alone killed.
azfish
Posted September 3, 2008 2:37 PM
If you can't view the video, it is also here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDnkEOKR1BE
TommySez
Posted 11:00 PM 2/9/08
"While space travel is safe for the most part"
Huh? What planet do you live on?
TommySez
Curves
Posted 10:51 PM 2/9/08
Hello...Mr Claims Adjuster?....Yeah, dude, I have to report a loss....uh-huh...my car melted....is that covered?
Curves
youngjjohnson
Posted 10:50 PM 2/9/08
I wonder if they are now hiring for someone to check for cracks...
youngjjohnson
Flugenhiber
Posted 10:46 PM 2/9/08
nasa didn't make that movie. every video that guy narrates is "deadly" - even birthday parties where a little kid farts.
and, i've got a 6 inch crack in my ass that i don't notice every day. granted, a difference on the maginitude of 34, but still.
Flugenhiber
phealy
Posted 10:45 PM 2/9/08
For those who didn't catch this - the video is NOT about the rocket the article is referring to - it's about an earlier "anomaly" in 1997. Hence the ATX launch vehicle/Wallops Island vs. Delta 2/Cape Canaveral difference.
phealy
fleebailey33
Posted 10:43 PM 2/9/08
"deadly"
from m-w.com "1: likely to cause or capable of producing death"
That would make it seem "deadly" no one is saying someone died. Just that they could of. Your not to smart judging from your first statement. And I'm sure NASA is much smarter then you. And trust me they have ways to figure out what is wrong.
fleebailey33
thegadgeteer
Posted 10:41 PM 2/9/08
Seems like they would have noticed a 17 ft long crack before launching. Maybe they were too busy painting a shark grin.
thegadgeteer
thekanester
Posted 10:41 PM 2/9/08
Mmmmmm rocket fuel....tasty...
thekanester
myotheralt
Posted 10:37 PM 2/9/08
1) It was not deadly, (1:40) "Amazingly, no one was injured."
2) How can they tell there was a 17 foot crack after a boom like that?
myotheralt
Hvedhrungr
Posted 10:35 PM 2/9/08
Damn.
Hvedhrungr
Concrete_Particulars
Posted 11:21 PM 2/9/08
@fleebailey33:
Step 1: Learn proper English grammar/word usage.
Step 2: Use said grammar/word usage in a sentence to call someone dumb.
WARNING: DO NOT SKIP STEP 1!
"Your (should be: you're) not to (should be: too) smart judging from your first statement. And I'm sure NASA is much smarter then (should be: than) you.
Concrete_Particulars
im_back
Posted 11:18 PM 2/9/08
hey Jesus, cover more gadgets and less spike tv's Worlds Most Somethingest Something.
im_back
strider_mt2k
Posted 11:11 PM 2/9/08
Spectacular, but if I was there for it I'd need a new pair of drawers afterward.
strider_mt2k
Jesus Diaz
Posted 11:07 PM 2/9/08
@rocketgeek: Did you actually read the article?
Jesus Diaz
Jesus Diaz
Posted 11:06 PM 2/9/08
@myotheralt:
deadly |ˈdedlē|
adjective ( -lier , -liest )
causing or able to cause death : a deadly weapon.
Come see me after class.
Jesus Diaz
rocketgeek
Posted 11:06 PM 2/9/08
Phealy is correct -- that's a Delta II at the Cape, not the recent sounding rocket failure at Wallops. Bit of a difference. The ground-level fireworks are chunks of solid propellant from the boosters hitting the ground... which is a(nother) good reason to detest the bloody things. And it all landed in the clear area anyhow, so it's really not that big a deal.
rocketgeek
sqeakytoy of the apocalypse
Posted 11:02 PM 2/9/08
@Curves: well did you bother to spring for the "mad scientist rider?" so few people today do, you know. But they should, they should.
sqeakytoy of the apocalypse
DustyButt
Posted 11:38 PM 2/9/08
Shame I had to turn off the sound due to that wretched soundtrack... Sometimes, I suffer from Accute Onset F*ckin' Annoyed (AOFA). The music totally made it flare up.
DustyButt
scrag
Posted 11:36 PM 2/9/08
If that's what they call "an anomaly", I'd hate to see what happens when they "have a real problem".
scrag
yogibimbi
Posted 11:35 PM 2/9/08
@myotheralt: I at first understood 'crab' and got somewhat dumbfounded by the 17 feet of length but not too much, since I think metric anyway. However, that would be one hell of a bugger. Toasty too, by the looks of the fireworks. Bummer it was just a crack.
On another note: Wallops Island sure had to take a nice wallop... oK, that was kinda stewpitt....
yogibimbi
danjuan
Posted 11:32 PM 2/9/08
The Deadly Aftermat: In this case deadly is used as an adjective not an adverb beacause it is followed by a noun, so Deadly Aftermath really means that someone actualy died within this explosion. This style of writing is used to confuse people. Lawyers use it often.
Come see me after class.
danjuan
flynboarder07
Posted 11:27 PM 2/9/08
Holy awesomeness! Those cars were liquefied!
flynboarder07
Joseph
Posted 11:26 PM 2/9/08
Does that look like Power Rangers to anyone else?
Joseph
IphtashuFitz
Posted 11:25 PM 2/9/08
My dad worked on the navigation systems for the Gemini project. He's described how one unmanned test launch of an early rocket started out fine but then got into trouble when a course correction went haywire. The rocket was supposed to alter course slightly but instead it turned 180 degrees and started heading back towards the ground so they had to destroy it. They eventually found the problem to be a rather simple logic bug in the guidance system. The pseudo code was something like this:
if (seconds == 32) then stop_course_correction;
Well the problem was that the code was checked when 31 seconds and then again when it was around 32.2 seconds. So it never actually equaled 32, so the course correction never ended. It should have been this instead:
if (seconds >= 32) then stop_course_correction;
That's one costly logic error...
IphtashuFitz
nystreetfilms
Posted 11:22 PM 2/9/08
Oh... it was only a 17 foot crack in the booster that caused this... thats easy to overlook. Those SEVENTEEN FOOT LONG CRACKS.
nystreetfilms
Kodai1
Posted 11:55 PM 2/9/08
Anyone else see that one of the boosters didn't fire? Likely that that was the booster that failed. Also likely that the crack wasn't in the outer skin of the booster, but was in the fuel. The flames would have gone out through that crack, melted the outer skin, melted the Delta 2, and ignited it's fuel.
Isn't solid rocket fuel fun? Isn't it comforting to know that we are still using it for manned launches, and will be relying on it even more in the Ares?
Kodai1
Benjammn
Posted 11:51 PM 2/9/08
@scrag:
I know. Those 17 foot cracks certainly aren't supposed to be there.
Announcer: We have an anomaly.
Engineer: No FUCKING SHIT!! It looks like Armageddon out there!!
Benjammn
FinalValgas
Posted 11:46 PM 2/9/08
So this is what the apocalypse is gonna look like eh? be pretty cool for the first few minutes till you go to hell.
FinalValgas
Bokusatsu_Tenshi
Posted 11:43 PM 2/9/08
Will you grammar nazis just shut the f*ck up about the meaning of deadly already?
Incredible piece of video... what ruins it is the "World's something something" tone, replays, and tacky tunes.
Lady was lucky she could complete that whole sucessful launching sentence before the whole thing blow up.
Bokusatsu_Tenshi
Noobs-R-Us
Posted 12:08 AM 3/9/08
OK, how far back does this setback cost us in getting the latest and the greatest GPS signal?
Also, why the the payload booster automatically eject and deploy parachute?
Noobs-R-Us
Git Em SteveDave is starlost
Posted 12:39 AM 3/9/08
@Flugenhiber: His name is Stacey Keach. No one narrates a worlds wildest "XXXX" or worlds deadliest "XXXX" like her does. On a side note, did anyone hear about the passing of Don LaFontaine, the famous VO guy today?
Git Em SteveDave is starlost
JDisnidiet
Posted 12:36 AM 3/9/08
Wow. Can you believe that? Someone wrote "Just that they could of. Your not to smart judging from your first statement."
Let us see if we can repair that 17 foot crack English usage. Start with "could of", replace that with "could have". "Your not to smart" is an all time classic - should that have been written "You're not too smart"? We may never know - the debris field is too large.
JDisnidiet
MyPetFly
Posted 12:33 AM 3/9/08
Where's Chuck Norris when you need him? He could have stopped it from exploding.
MyPetFly
MePerson
Posted 12:22 AM 3/9/08
I think this was in the "Destroyed in Seconds" Discovery Channel show's ad.
MePerson
shini
Posted 12:59 AM 3/9/08
This is why you shouldn't paint shark mouths on things that aren't explicitly for killing people. It makes them thirst for blood.
shini
MastaFalse
Posted 12:46 AM 3/9/08
Holy shit. Final Fantasy spells >.>
METEOR.
MastaFalse
andrelix
Posted 1:15 AM 3/9/08
"sometimes things go really wrong." Is there any inbetween?
@im_back: I think that the GPS satellite that was going to orbit would be gadget related. Not to mention, every loves stuff that blows up!
andrelix
sxt173
Posted 1:11 AM 3/9/08
Sounds like the lady announcing the launch was somewhere else, i.e. she just saw a small spike in heat in booster 5 on a monitor somewhere.. anomaly.. hahahaha
sxt173
stryder100
Posted 1:06 AM 3/9/08
Hmmm... looks like QA Testing screwed up.
stryder100
stryder100
Posted 1:35 AM 3/9/08
Jesus wept.
stryder100
weatherman
Posted 1:35 AM 3/9/08
Remind me, the next time I'm working at a rocket launching facility, to park in the overflow lot.
weatherman
godwhacker
Posted 1:30 AM 3/9/08
could it be reproduced using over the counter estes parts and lighter fluid?
-goes to look for old launching control panel....
godwhacker
General Halfshaftery
Posted 1:24 AM 3/9/08
@im_back:
I chortled, hehe
General Halfshaftery
Barry99705
Posted 1:46 AM 3/9/08
Sure it was deadly, it kill a bunch of cars.
Barry99705
SneakerFiend
Posted 1:43 AM 3/9/08
@thegadgeteer: I mean the thing is worth how many millions of dollars or maybe even billions. Im sure i'd check to see if there was a crack anywhere.
The shark grin was blown to smitherens. Reminds me of a suicide bomber before he just blows himself to "heaven" where he'll get his 21 virgins. {-sigh-) hey its their beliefs.
SneakerFiend
StopTheLHC
Posted 1:41 AM 3/9/08
@Git Em SteveDave is starlost: Yeah, him and his voice will be missed.
On a side note, isn't a 17 foot crack just a little hard to miss when doing the final inspections?
StopTheLHC
Git Em SteveDave is starless
Posted 2:22 AM 3/9/08
@FrankenPC: The only downside is it has to be launched from inside the country you wish to fire it at. So if Russia wouldn't mind you setting one up in Red Square, you're golden.
Git Em SteveDave is starless
Dinotech
Posted 2:19 AM 3/9/08
Nothing like flaming magnesium to light up the sky!
Dinotech
FrankenPC
Posted 2:04 AM 3/9/08
Heyyyy....I just got an idea for a new ballistic missile. NASA could go military overnight.
FrankenPC
dysthymia
Posted 2:24 AM 3/9/08
@FrankenPC: from wiki "In addition to the space program, it is also responsible for long-term civilian and military aerospace research.[4]"
NASA is military.
dysthymia
bimplebean
Posted 2:45 AM 3/9/08
I hate when that happens.
bimplebean
mikeg916
Posted 2:42 AM 3/9/08
all these comments and only one person who understands how a crack in solid fuel boosters works....
*sigh*
the internet fails again.....
mikeg916
kaylix
Posted 3:17 AM 3/9/08
@JDisnidiet: i read your post and breathed a HUGE sigh of relief. Reading posts anywhere on the Internet is a test of my patience with others' use of basic grammar.
I'm just glad someone else is paying attention.
kaylix
ddaq89
Posted 3:37 AM 3/9/08
Does anyone know if insurance would cover a car melted in an "anomaly" like this? This sure isn't your typical fender bender accident.
ddaq89
phlavor
Posted 3:33 AM 3/9/08
"An anomaly" I like that. I'm going to start using that. "Honey, your sister and I had an anomaly after the party last night." Yeah, see that doesn't sound so bad.
phlavor
thebear91
Posted 5:21 AM 3/9/08
1997. Talk about OLD tech news.
I watched the video of this vehicle exploding 10 years ago.
thebear91
Purple Dave
Posted 5:17 AM 3/9/08
@ddaq89:
Somewhere out there, I'm sure there are over two dozen people who now know the answer to that question.
Purple Dave
Purple Dave
Posted 5:15 AM 3/9/08
I love how a giant rocket exploding into fiery shards that rain down upon the parking lot and grounds is called an "anomoly". Anyways, it's really odd to note that if you mark every NASA fatality on a calendar, they all fall within the same seven-day period (around the end of January/start of February as I recall). Even more interesting to note that, while we've lost the most astronauts, due in large part to the two Space Shuttle disasters, we still haven't even come close to touching the record for most lives lost, from when an early Russian rocket basically fell over on the launch pad and killed around 90 people who were dumb enough to stand too close, and out in the open where they had no chance at survival.
@im_back:
That's "World's Blankiest Blank", thankyouverymuch.
@IphtashuFitz:
If it was just a test launch, then they probably didn't have a real payload on it, and they probably didn't expect to recover it. So, in a way, that was a huge cost-saving mistake, since they figured it out before sending a pricy satellite into oblivion. Now, the Mars polar lander, on the other hand...
@scrag:
Judging by past experience, everyone gets home safe in the end and they make a blockbuster Tom Hanks movie out of it.
@phlavor:
Your rocket had a big fiery explosion that melted parts of her car? You probably ought to go to the clinic for that...
Purple Dave
banmojo
Posted 9:20 AM 3/9/08
that was so totally fake
HAH!
jk, jk, geezus. bad ass explosion! hope some vid game dev uses that in a sequence, f$#@ing sick.
oh yeah, btw, I just heard they're coming out with a new Castle Wolfenstein game. RTCW was so exTREME dudes. exTREME! (just watched that White Castle film for the 10th time :^)
banmojo
Barion
Posted 10:29 PM 3/9/08
@dysthymia: NASA is a civilian administration. The military does not run it. Lots of civilian organizations do military R&D, and yes, NASA launches military equipment into space, but it's not a military outfit. There is no general or admiral in charge of NASA.
Barion
JEmlay
Posted 5:18 AM 4/9/08
So....they saw a 17 foot crack after the explosion but not BEFORE the explosion? Yeah.... that's it!
JEmlay
addiktion
Posted 10:49 AM 9/9/08
Yeah I think a 17 foot crack would be hard to miss but believe it or not that stuff happens. My dad happens to work with the propellant of this stuff and it's crazy how long and hot it can burn.
Either way that was flipping awesome looking. It was like Armageddon in such a short period of time. Almost like meteors falling out of the sky.
I can only imagine this on a larger scale of say a real asteroid that launches hundreds of smaller meteors at the ground.
addiktion